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Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 10:56 pm
by S4ur0n27
omg

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 11:56 pm
by Spazmo
Silly rabbits--FEV IS NOT AIRBORNE. It's right there in the dialog with ZAX. The Enclave's verison of FEV may have been airborne, but they modified the hell out of FEV. Therefore, things like radscorpions, pigrats, etc. are not caused by FEV. It's simple radiation that made the various critters giant. MCA is here, as in so many things in the FOB, full of crap.

Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 2:56 pm
by Stainless
Look at all my smart posts!
Flaser wrote:They are in a dormant form vrapped up in some way - outside effects like acid, heat, radiation can destroy the wrap and destroy or alter the virus.
wrap = protein coat.

If the protein coat gets destroyed, then the virus RNA is fucked. No altering about it. It won't replicate because it can't get access to cells without the protein coat.

Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2004 10:19 pm
by Megatron
I thought if you swallowed it you turned into a brahmin

Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2004 10:25 pm
by fallout ranger
wow, a whole page got deleted.

Obviously, the enclave found a way to make FEV airborne. Either that or they administered it at a very close range. ??It is doubtful that they could make a airborne strain, seeing as they'd need to genetically engineer it somehow.

Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2004 10:27 pm
by Spazmo
Yeah, the ENCLAVE made it airborne, but West Tek didn't. And given that the various wasteland critters existed LONG before the Enclave got any FEV and that a release of the Enclave's FEV would have, y'know, killed everyone, we can only assume that radscopions and such are purely radiation-created creatures.

Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2004 10:29 pm
by Megatron
perhaps someone went around to everyone and gave them a little FEV injection but some got one twice.

Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2004 12:05 am
by Flaser
Stainless wrote:Look at all my smart posts!
Flaser wrote:They are in a dormant form vrapped up in some way - outside effects like acid, heat, radiation can destroy the wrap and destroy or alter the virus.
wrap = protein coat.

If the protein coat gets destroyed, then the virus RNA is fucked. No altering about it. It won't replicate because it can't get access to cells without the protein coat.
You're right. Though irradiation could affect the RNA/DNA directly, though it's more likely that an infected cell undergoes mution, and from then on manufactures a new strain of the virus.

Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2004 12:09 am
by Megatron
what about the nucleus? isnt that vital to the fev plot somehow?

Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2004 12:10 am
by fallout ranger
yes, its where the DNA/RNA is housed.

Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2004 12:15 am
by Megatron
I thought the DNA was housed in the brain, because if you dont have a brain you dont have dna right?

Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2004 12:17 am
by fallout ranger
We *ARE* talking about individual cells, right?

The nucleus is technically the "brain" of the cell, because it controls all of the cell's functions.

Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2004 12:18 am
by Megatron
no, the brain. The human brain! Think of any animal that has a brain right. It has dna. A rock doesnt have dna does it? does a tree have dna? does a bee have dna? no, no brain you see.

So perhaps fev only afffects things with a brain because they have dna. I will have to look into this.

Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2004 12:21 am
by fallout ranger
a single cell has DNA, but no brain, so brush up on your biology before posting here.

Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2004 12:27 am
by Megatron
no, I think you're mistaken. A single cell might contain DNA. But only the cells in the brain. Because these brain cells tell what the rest of the body to be, like bone or meat. That's why rocks don't have rights, they dont have a brain.

Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2004 12:29 am
by fallout ranger
shut the fuck up please...

And learn high school biology

Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2004 12:33 am
by Ernesto
No, all cells do have DNA in their nucleui. How do you think Teh CSI can find their killers with a strand of hair?

Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2004 12:35 am
by fallout ranger
thanks ernesto, but that's what I've been telling him but he won't believe me

Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2004 12:35 am
by Megatron
Look, I may not know much about Biology. Or Physics. Or Chemistry. Or P.E. But I know this. The only thing that you can be certain of is that nothing is ever certain.

But I'm certain you're wrong. Brain cells carry DNA to other parts of the body like the heart pumps oxygen to the lungs! It's just a fact of life, either deal with it or don't. Or deal with it.

Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2004 12:37 am
by fallout ranger
shut the fuck up again