Morrowind mod released. Why God, WHY?!

hat_man99 · Post by **hat_man99** » Sun Jan 01, 2006 6:27 pm

You'd think haris would just leave instead of coming back and hearing how much his mod sucks from everyone here

ApTyp · Post by **ApTyp** » Sun Jan 01, 2006 6:32 pm

Not really, since it generates much needed publicity to help keep his mod's download count high...

Haris · Post by **Haris** » Sun Jan 01, 2006 6:36 pm

Leaving is for wusses. Plus i dont see anyone prasing you for anything.

Plus if everyone hates the mod why would there be people coming to wm forums all excited about Wasteland merc 3 being made right now?

Or you can just see it this way. WM1 was downloaded loads while 15 people on dac talked shit about it and than wm2 was released and it was downloaded even more while same 15 people talked shit about that to. That does not really tell me everyone hates it. It would have at least droped in downloads after wm1.

hat_man99 · Post by **hat_man99** » Sun Jan 01, 2006 6:41 pm

Dont see anyone saying my mod sucks and im a whiney bitch either, i seem to find a pattern there.

Editing your post's shows your unprepared to post in the first place, anyway when in my last couple of sentences did i ever say everyone on the net hates your mod. I just divulged that some people, well alot of people hate your mod and seem to say it quite fequently. Plus alot of the population of the human race are complete smeg heads, doo doo brains, droped on there head as a game when they where young. So occupy them selves with arguing about "My mod is teh shit!!!111" "No it isnt you suck, and so does your mod". Just gives me more time to rob them

Haris · Post by **Haris** » Sun Jan 01, 2006 6:59 pm

Well i got no answer to that.

You post was not offensive enough or something...

hat_man99 · Post by **hat_man99** » Sun Jan 01, 2006 7:04 pm

And so the lesson is taught

Haris · Post by **Haris** » Sun Jan 01, 2006 7:30 pm

Thats offensive enough.

You suck.

Are you gonna leave now?

Rosh · Post by **Rosh** » Mon Jan 02, 2006 1:33 pm

Haris wrote:Fallout 1 & 2 dont have 138000000 players put toghether so your saying they sucks big time? Specially cause they apeal to rest of population that dont have OCD. They should have at least 6 billion players according to you. And they dont.

It is amusing you decide to use that argument, because it is similar to every moronic marketing department out there. NO CRPG is wildly successful from the start unless it fills a much-needed niche like Final Fantasy did for the NES. Quite frankly, the PC RPG market already had good titles out already by the time of Fallout, and Fallout didn't recieve anywhere near the amount of support that it could have. Namely, Wizardry, Ultima, Albion, Might and Magic, and numbers of others were present, many of which were sequels of strong series. Those didn't sell wildly at first (Akalabeth - Ultima II had even worse sales than Fallout 1 alone), but with time and with a fan base that followed the growth of the series, these series saw releases that had MILLIONS of sales on name alone. Fallout has only two good releases, besmirched with a couple of crappy spin-offs that NOBODY really likes. People, even mass-market rags like PCGamer and GameSpy, recognize that there are a good amount of people who follow Fallout, and it is mainly due to influence it has had on other developers. Now that it has spread interest, a third and subsequent titles, if treated properly and kept faithful, will progress the series much like any other CRPG series to date.

Then Ultima fucking died with the MMORPG. And you want to see the same happen for Fallout before it even has a chance to establish a larger audience like the other great games I mentioned before.

Yet this has been pointed out to you at length before, but you're still too stupid to understand it.

And you are totaly big fat attention whore.

No, I am a Fallout site admin, you are just a talentless hack that somehow thinks your mangling of the Fallout engine is welcome, or for that matter, apropos to any coherent design scheme. Maybe you might have some REAL mod success and REAL download numbers if you had some content than a milling stat system as "gameplay".

You are trying to get in to fallout 3 as you did in fallout tactics by flaming alot of stuff.

You seem to think I care about that reference, child. I don't. I don't care about anyone who cheaply uses the name of any title for recognition, especially when they are the developer of the game.

That again i understand you there. Its fun to have your name mentioned even if its not that positive all the time.

Funny, would you care to explain Eli Havelock, Mandrake, or a number of other references? No, didn't think so. You're just jealous because I have had more to do with Ultima than you ever did, the major milestone of your life is a crappy UOX server and a shitty Fo2 mod that rival each other for lack of content.

I really dont see no point in defending my mod. I got nothing to prove to you. My growing forum is proof enough for its success.

That is like being proud of the growing cockroach collection because your house is full of garbage. But hey, if that is what you prefer, more power to you. Just don't expect any respect around here.

What your as usually fat post ment is "i played your mod and it pissed me off that it was actually pretty decent total conversion mod cause i dont like the creator of it. So now i will try to insult it with regular phrases usually used on Morowind and Diablo.

No, what I meant was "I played your mod and it pissed me off that it was as expected, an unimaginative wad of crap by a talentless hack that copies some MMOG mechanics, but otherwise has done jack shit for work, then tries to use this sorry excuse as some validation for turning Fallout into this talentless waste of time. In fact, the true crime here is that those who have done far more work than you, i.e. the art guy, have their hard work wasted by being associated with your binary lump of shit and nothing for design being otherwise present in the mod. Name-dropping those games in reference to your mod wasn't too bright; while you DO have many of the bad points of those games, you utterly lack any of their good points as redemption."

Haris · Post by **Haris** » Mon Jan 02, 2006 2:16 pm

No, what I meant was "I played your mod and it pissed me off that it was as expected, an unimaginative wad of crap by a talentless hack that copies some MMOG mechanics, but otherwise has done jack shit for work, then tries to use this sorry excuse as some validation for turning Fallout into this talentless waste of time. In fact, the true crime here is that those who have done far more work than you, i.e. the art guy, have their hard work wasted by being associated with your binary lump of shit and nothing for design being otherwise present in the mod. Name-dropping those games in reference to your mod wasn't too bright; while you DO have many of the bad points of those games, you utterly lack any of their good points as redemption."

To begin with art guy played Wasteland merc 1 and he contacted me and ask to do the weapons for wm2. He spent 2 days of work on it, compared to my 2 months thats nothing.

Than you keep babling about ultima online, when in fact we did not copy ultima online mechanics but runescape ones. I am awere that rs copyes uo from start but they had a huge difference on both crafting and gameplay style. Ie food healing, fishing being usefull, cooking and so on. Plus the mod was just demostration that mmorpg mehcanics can work in fallout world. I am aware that its not mmorpg just cause it has those mehcanics but the mod delivers exactly what the readme file says it does. If you expect typical crpg out of it offcourse you will get dissapointed.

Well i wish you good luck in wating for that perfect mod that you seem to hope Lich will develop for you.

Oh and we are making Wasteland Merc 3 and this time it is going to be crpg with story and ending and multi solution quests with some mmorpg mechanics except they are going to be automated so no more klicking to cook or mine. So dont think that i dont take critics and try to make the mod better. You can compare the wm2 with living dead mod and you cant say that it hasnt come far sence that. And we are improving it as we keep releaseing mods. At least we release our mods instead of wating for that perfect one in the end that never comes.

Funny, would you care to explain Eli Havelock, Mandrake, or a number of other references? No, didn't think so. You're just jealous because I have had more to do with Ultima than you ever did, the major milestone of your life is a crappy UOX server and a shitty Fo2 mod that rival each other for lack of content.

I got no idea what you are talking about there. I was never that big fan of ultima. I actually think entire series sucked but than again that might be unfair judgment of it cause i havent played so much of it. I admit i played ultima online for 3 years and thats long ago and i am sick of it and i am no longer in to playing mmorgs. Once you play them they all feel the same. Oh and whats uox server? As far as i know that was never finished.

Then Ultima fucking died with the MMORPG. And you want to see the same happen for Fallout before it even has a chance to establish a larger audience like the other great games I mentioned before.

Yet this has been pointed out to you at length before, but you're still too stupid to understand it.

Ultima didnt die with mmorpg, it simply died cause they didnt develop them anymore. Its like saying Warcraft died with mmorpg cause it blizzard can now make 100 times more money on expansion for wow than a warcraft sequel. I guess in some poeples eyes it did die. But that doesnt make wow total failiure. Same goes for ultima online. Sure it killed of ultima series but you cant say it was a devastating move of the company.

Rosh · Post by **Rosh** » Mon Jan 02, 2006 4:36 pm

Haris wrote: To begin with art guy played Wasteland merc 1 and he contacted me and ask to do the weapons for wm2. He spent 2 days of work on it, compared to my 2 months thats nothing.

The difference is, the artwork is valuable. Your bullshit is not.

Than you keep babling about ultima online, when in fact we did not copy ultima online mechanics but runescape ones. I am awere that rs copyes uo from start but they had a huge difference on both crafting and gameplay style. Ie food healing, fishing being usefull, cooking and so on.

I think I said "shitty UOX server". That fact still remains.

Plus the mod was just demostration that mmorpg mehcanics can work in fallout world.

Wrong. The mechanics do NOT work in a Fallout world. It completely breaks when you make it multiplayer.

I am aware that its not mmorpg just cause it has those mehcanics but the mod delivers exactly what the readme file says it does. If you expect typical crpg out of it offcourse you will get dissapointed.

And if you expect any good gameplay, you will similarly be disappointed.

Well i wish you good luck in wating for that perfect mod that you seem to hope Lich will develop for you.

Actually, while Lich has made a couple of questionable stalls in his design, his current design scheme alone is far preferable over something that has no gameplay, which fairly describes your modwork. "Sounds good" still beats "plays like ass".

Oh and we are making Wasteland Merc 3 and this time it is going to be crpg with story and ending and multi solution quests with some mmorpg mechanics except they are going to be automated so no more klicking to cook or mine. So dont think that i dont take critics and try to make the mod better. You can compare the wm2 with living dead mod and you cant say that it hasnt come far sence that. And we are improving it as we keep releaseing mods. At least we release our mods instead of wating for that perfect one in the end that never comes.

So instead of taking everyone's feedback, you instead whined, sniveled, and are now basically now going to make what people would want to play, instead of an uninspired piece of shit?

How fucking novel. Except for the part about acting like we're being unfair that you made garbage earlier and we said it was crap, and now you are starting to get a clue. Then you try and act as if you came up with it on your own that suddenly perhaps you should do what people keep saying you should, or to give them what they expect, but a bit late.

I admit i played ultima online for 3 years and thats long ago and i am sick of it and i am no longer in to playing mmorgs. Once you play them they all feel the same.

And then you wonder why we tell you that you're a fucking moron for making Fallout play the same.

Oh and whats uox server? As far as i know that was never finished.

Actually, it was a continual work in progress. So much for your highly regarded UO emulator servers...

Ultima didnt die with mmorpg, it simply died cause they didnt develop them anymore.

Liar. You fucking lying sack of shit.

Sure it killed of ultima series but you cant say it was a devastating move of the company.

Yes, I can. It destroyed Origin. Any more brilliant comments, or are you finished proving you were better left IN the condom?

Blargh · Post by **Blargh** » Mon Jan 02, 2006 5:37 pm

A joy to read.

Huzzah for peptic ulcers !

S4ur0n27 · Post by **S4ur0n27** » Mon Jan 02, 2006 7:05 pm

Stop spamming the news posts, Rosh

SeanyD · Post by **SeanyD** » Mon Jan 02, 2006 7:41 pm

*grabs popcorn*

Haris · Post by **Haris** » Mon Jan 02, 2006 10:25 pm

The difference is, the artwork is valuable. Your bullshit is not.

What are you trying to say that he didnt agree to make the art? Trust me it was wierd to me to when he contacted me and said he wants to make the art work for the mod. He had all the info on how mod is going to be. Btw so did you and still you expected crpg out of it for some reason.

I think I said "shitty UOX server". That fact still remains.

There has never existed any UOX server ever anywhere. UOX was canceled and instead they made UO:aos. What you are on about i got no idea.

Wrong. The mechanics do NOT work in a Fallout world. It completely breaks when you make it multiplayer.

Amount of people playing it and writing walktroughs for it proves that wrong. But than again its a personal opinion and yours is no more right than mine.

And if you expect any good gameplay, you will similarly be disappointed.

That can be said about plenty of games. Still personal opinion not the truth.

Actually, while Lich has made a couple of questionable stalls in his design, his current design scheme alone is far preferable over something that has no gameplay, which fairly describes your modwork. "Sounds good" still beats "plays like ass".

Oh please even you flamed him on nma.

So instead of taking everyone's feedback, you instead whined, sniveled, and are now basically now going to make what people would want to play, instead of an uninspired piece of shit?

How fucking novel. Except for the part about acting like we're being unfair that you made garbage earlier and we said it was crap, and now you are starting to get a clue. Then you try and act as if you came up with it on your own that suddenly perhaps you should do what people keep saying you should, or to give them what they expect, but a bit late.

I think i proved i can take criticisam when we released Vault net addon. I dont have to become a kissass and nice to every flamer that trows his shit at me. Before i joined Dac i might have been. But thats just not the way it works here.

And then you wonder why we tell you that you're a fucking moron for making Fallout play the same.

Having played a game for 3 years and than getting tired of it doesnt make it suck. UO is actually the best mmorpg ever made in my opinion and i have never menaged to play another game for 3 years without a break and not get sick of it, and we are talking about 8 hours per day 5 days a week. Not even fallout. Even thoe i can still return to fallout and i am not yet sure about uo.

Actually, it was a continual work in progress. So much for your highly regarded UO emulator servers...

No UOX was not continual work in progress. It was announced and than 3 months later or something it was cancelled cause as for all mmorpgs they can make millions on just a expansion instead of wasting resources on a new game that would compete with their regular uo servers.

Yes, I can. It destroyed Origin. Any more brilliant comments, or are you finished proving you were better left IN the condom?

I have 3 different boxes of ultima online and all of them say Origin. I am awere that its not original origin that made Ultima games. But there is still nothing that says that ultima online is the cause of that. There was no fallout mmorpg and black isle is dead. And thats about the same story with origin except that Origin is not dead just has 100% different staff.

Oh and writing insults at the end of each coment you make does not make your statement any stronger.

PsychoSniper · Post by **PsychoSniper** » Tue Jan 03, 2006 4:36 am

Face it Haris, you and your mods are shit.

Sorta like Rosh.

Haris · Post by **Haris** » Tue Jan 03, 2006 11:54 am

PsychoSniper you really should not talk about this. You where braging for half a year about your art skills than you made 2 frms for fanout. Everyone flamed you for it and you ran with the tail betwen your legs.

hat_man99 · Post by **hat_man99** » Tue Jan 03, 2006 1:58 pm

OMG Just IM each other we dont need this crap here, thats whats the wasteland is for

P.S. You suck

Haris · Post by **Haris** » Tue Jan 03, 2006 2:24 pm

Oh comon you got to admit this is pretty fun reading.

hat_man99 · Post by **hat_man99** » Tue Jan 03, 2006 2:28 pm

That would be under the usumption ive read it

Edit: I have now, i remember a long flaming is always good, now if you two girls are down kissing, you've got some flaming to do

Nicolai · Post by **Nicolai** » Tue Jan 03, 2006 11:42 pm

Conehead is back.