Are you ready?
- trythebill
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Are you ready?
I've been frequenting some gun forums lately and there seems to be a lot of discussion about "shit hitting the fan" or SHTF. which can be anything from complete social collapse, to inter-american warfare, to extended blackout peroids, or even natural disasters. hell, even soviet paratroopers or aliens. anyway people list things one would need to survive, both stored in home for extended stay and "bug-out" bags if they need to cut and run. here's a usual example of a SHTF survival kit.
-non-perishable food stuffs(high calorie and high fat)
-water for up to two weeks
-batteries, matches, can opener, bug spray
-a rugged reliable firearm and ammunition and any spare parts that may break.(think ak or sks, something that will last without cleaning or extended maintenence, something you would stake your life on)
-extra clothing, including winter gear
-cigarettes, alcohol, and other tobacco products
-hard candy
-flashlights
-toothpaste, soaps, nail clippers and lotion
-books, music, entertainment in general
-water purification system
-sharp knives
-and lastly the number one implement, according to Ford Perfect, a good towel.
now this is all good for a SHTF situation where one would stay within his domicile or close by. a bug-out bag would obviously contain only those items necessary for survival until other items can be acquired by any means necessary. now the obvious question is, if the shit hits the fan will you be ready? could you do what you needed to survive? do you have the necessary implements to continue life?
http://www.greatdreams.com/survival.htm
(my bug-out bag as of right now)
1. shaving kit. soap, shaving cream, razor, toothpaste deodorant, general bathroom implements
2. 1 gallon water
3. high calorie protein bars
4. ammo and firearm
5. boots, socks, clothing(winter can be easily adapted for summer use)
6. knife
7. compass, local map, cell phone
8. carton of camels and fifth whiskey
9. zippo, matches and zippo fluid
this is a good size and weight bag, but in an emergency it would be no problem to grab and go in a car, or hoof it several miles to a safe place.
-non-perishable food stuffs(high calorie and high fat)
-water for up to two weeks
-batteries, matches, can opener, bug spray
-a rugged reliable firearm and ammunition and any spare parts that may break.(think ak or sks, something that will last without cleaning or extended maintenence, something you would stake your life on)
-extra clothing, including winter gear
-cigarettes, alcohol, and other tobacco products
-hard candy
-flashlights
-toothpaste, soaps, nail clippers and lotion
-books, music, entertainment in general
-water purification system
-sharp knives
-and lastly the number one implement, according to Ford Perfect, a good towel.
now this is all good for a SHTF situation where one would stay within his domicile or close by. a bug-out bag would obviously contain only those items necessary for survival until other items can be acquired by any means necessary. now the obvious question is, if the shit hits the fan will you be ready? could you do what you needed to survive? do you have the necessary implements to continue life?
http://www.greatdreams.com/survival.htm
(my bug-out bag as of right now)
1. shaving kit. soap, shaving cream, razor, toothpaste deodorant, general bathroom implements
2. 1 gallon water
3. high calorie protein bars
4. ammo and firearm
5. boots, socks, clothing(winter can be easily adapted for summer use)
6. knife
7. compass, local map, cell phone
8. carton of camels and fifth whiskey
9. zippo, matches and zippo fluid
this is a good size and weight bag, but in an emergency it would be no problem to grab and go in a car, or hoof it several miles to a safe place.
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We were talking about this like 2 weeks ago with the What if Fallout Were Real thread. I think you're really misinterpretting what they're saying on those gun forums, or maybe you're visiting the wrong forums, you know the ones sponsored by the Klan, this is especially true if the causes for this "social colapse" are "those greedy Jews" or "them damn swell guy, SHAZAM!" I think what they're talking about is the impending 2004 election, the fear is that Hitlery will run and the Socialist elements in this country will vote for her or one like her and win and come in and start cutting our rights away and taxing us on everything. I don't agree with the Patriot Act either but right now I think Bush is the best chance, smash the Democratic party then the Libertarian party can move into their place and the idiot voters will see that they're really the best hope for the country. Good times for all. And Uzis, oh man, I'll be able to own an Uzi.
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- trythebill
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what the fuck are you talking about you fucking retard? the forums are not sponsored by the klan or anything like that you idiot, they are just general firearms discussion forums. how the fuck could i be misinterpreting what they are saying since the first paragraph is almost word for word from one of the posts i read. it isn't about me misinterpreting what is said but you misinterpreting what i've said. i feel it is better to be prepared, especially in light of the recent power outages. as it is, you contributed nothing to this thread and made yourself look like a fucking retard. please refrain from posting until you stop being such a douchebag.airsoft guy wrote:We were talking about this like 2 weeks ago with the What if Fallout Were Real thread. I think you're really misinterpretting what they're saying on those gun forums, or maybe you're visiting the wrong forums, you know the ones sponsored by the Klan, this is especially true if the causes for this "social colapse" are "those greedy Jews" or "them damn swell guy, SHAZAM!" I think what they're talking about is the impending 2004 election, the fear is that Hitlery will run and the Socialist elements in this country will vote for her or one like her and win and come in and start cutting our rights away and taxing us on everything.
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Re: Are you ready?
I take it that you would include toilet paper in among that? That would be something that seems was left off the first list.trythebill wrote:general bathroom implements
Don't laugh people, wiping your ass w/rocks, leaves and/or newspaper sucks. (In fact, I highly recommend against wiping your ass w/newsprint, especially the cheap shit. The ink is slightly acidic. 'Nuff said...)
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I wish that would happen.hell, even soviet paratroopers or aliens.
My Kit:
- Boxes of MREs
- Those water cooler water jug things
- Water purification devices
- Gardening equipment
- Medical kits
- Some of that modern day Rad-X
- Vitamins
- Firearms & Ammo
- Hustler Magazines
- Clothing
- Some of those nifty U.S. Military issue matches
- Tools such as shovels, axes, hammers, screw drivers, hell I'd just take my entire Craftsman tool chest.
- Cat food for my cat whom I love very much
- Cyanide pills, just incase I become mortally wounded and can do nothing to better my situation.
Anyway I live in an area that if Nuclear was to happen, I'd never really notice since I am very far in the mountains and well away from civilization.
Re: Are you ready?
If one must wipe one's backside on a newspaper, show some decorum and use The Times, dear boy!OnTheBounce wrote:I take it that you would include toilet paper in among that? That would be something that seems was left off the first list.trythebill wrote:general bathroom implements
Don't laugh people, wiping your ass w/rocks, leaves and/or newspaper sucks. (In fact, I highly recommend against wiping your ass w/newsprint, especially the cheap shit. The ink is slightly acidic. 'Nuff said...)
OTB
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Mine:
2 12 guage winchesters+ enough shots to feed me for quite some time.
Zippo w/ alot of fluid
Knife
Beer/Whiskey
Bathroom stuffs
10 Gal water
6 thingies of propane+ propane grill, 3 pots, a big pan.
Axe
A helluva lot of boilable food. No MREs, too lazy to get 'em.
Porn
Computer+fallouts.
1 55 Gal. drum of gas, 1 old-assed, crappy car.
A lot of seeds for foodstuffs (greens, tomatoes, etc...)
Vitamins.
A healthy aprecciation for venison, rabbit, and Pig.
2 12 guage winchesters+ enough shots to feed me for quite some time.
Zippo w/ alot of fluid
Knife
Beer/Whiskey
Bathroom stuffs
10 Gal water
6 thingies of propane+ propane grill, 3 pots, a big pan.
Axe
A helluva lot of boilable food. No MREs, too lazy to get 'em.
Porn
Computer+fallouts.
1 55 Gal. drum of gas, 1 old-assed, crappy car.
A lot of seeds for foodstuffs (greens, tomatoes, etc...)
Vitamins.
A healthy aprecciation for venison, rabbit, and Pig.
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Up and coming hardware nerd.................. 3. Hence I am perfect
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Up and coming hardware nerd.................. 3. Hence I am perfect
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Let's note that just because some online gun nuts want to go primitive, doesn't mean society's downfall is happening soon.
That being said, let's have fun.
People are missing some basic stuff here. My bug-out bag list:
- Duct tape
- Frame backpack
- 3-in-1 parka
- Two pairs of jeans
- Two long-sleeved shirts
- A few pairs of underwear
- A heavy wool sweater
- Lots of socks (possibly the most useful clothing item)
- Shell pants
- Hiking boots
- Waterproof winter boots
- Leatherman multi-purpose tool
- Zippo lighter
- Flint + steel (lighters run out)
- Three heat-reflective ponchos (fold easy and you can use 'em to make tents too)
- 50' of rope (c'mon, people)
- A hatchet
- Bug spray
- Bug netting
- Fishing line and hooks
- Basic first aid stuff (bandages, wraps, disinfectant, etc)
- Water bottle w/a filtration spout
- Iodine pills
- Caffeine pills
- Police-style flashlight w/extra batteries
- Old-style razors if I can find 'em
- Camping pots
- Collapsible shovel
- A good walking stick
- Belt (keeps your pants up, fastens things, usable as a tourniquet)
- Lots of PowerBars
- Hard candy
- Reese's Pieces
- As many bandanas as I can cram in there
- MREs, if I can find them
- A compound bow and hunting arrows
- Toilet paper, taken off the roll and folded
- As many plastic freezer bags as possible
- Canvas work gloves
- Heavy winter gloves
- Tang or Kool-Aid
- Map and compass
- Signal mirror
- Portable radio
- A big block of soap
- "Wilderness Survival" by Gregory Davenport
- A towel (Doug Adams wasn't crazy)
I'm pretty sure I could carry/wear all of this on my person. Not a priority but going in if there's room:
- "The Stranger" by Albert Camus
- "A Brief History of Time" by Stephen Hawking
- 10x10 nylon tarp
- Toothbrush, toothpaste, shaving cream, deodorant, etc.
- Bottle of Jameson's Irish Whisky
I knew that my Wilderness Survival merit badge would come in handy some day.
That being said, let's have fun.
People are missing some basic stuff here. My bug-out bag list:
- Duct tape
- Frame backpack
- 3-in-1 parka
- Two pairs of jeans
- Two long-sleeved shirts
- A few pairs of underwear
- A heavy wool sweater
- Lots of socks (possibly the most useful clothing item)
- Shell pants
- Hiking boots
- Waterproof winter boots
- Leatherman multi-purpose tool
- Zippo lighter
- Flint + steel (lighters run out)
- Three heat-reflective ponchos (fold easy and you can use 'em to make tents too)
- 50' of rope (c'mon, people)
- A hatchet
- Bug spray
- Bug netting
- Fishing line and hooks
- Basic first aid stuff (bandages, wraps, disinfectant, etc)
- Water bottle w/a filtration spout
- Iodine pills
- Caffeine pills
- Police-style flashlight w/extra batteries
- Old-style razors if I can find 'em
- Camping pots
- Collapsible shovel
- A good walking stick
- Belt (keeps your pants up, fastens things, usable as a tourniquet)
- Lots of PowerBars
- Hard candy
- Reese's Pieces
- As many bandanas as I can cram in there
- MREs, if I can find them
- A compound bow and hunting arrows
- Toilet paper, taken off the roll and folded
- As many plastic freezer bags as possible
- Canvas work gloves
- Heavy winter gloves
- Tang or Kool-Aid
- Map and compass
- Signal mirror
- Portable radio
- A big block of soap
- "Wilderness Survival" by Gregory Davenport
- A towel (Doug Adams wasn't crazy)
I'm pretty sure I could carry/wear all of this on my person. Not a priority but going in if there's room:
- "The Stranger" by Albert Camus
- "A Brief History of Time" by Stephen Hawking
- 10x10 nylon tarp
- Toothbrush, toothpaste, shaving cream, deodorant, etc.
- Bottle of Jameson's Irish Whisky
I knew that my Wilderness Survival merit badge would come in handy some day.
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bah you people carry too much. Soap? Rope? A walking stick? Why would you need half that crap? Mabye a change of footwear, but you wouldn't need half your wardrobe for winter and summer use. Mabye take a few tinned foods, salt and sugar and something to keep your sugar levels up, but that'd be about it.
I don't see why you'd need a bunch of tools though, all that heavy camping shit etc. Just go sleep in someones house or take a blanket and sleep in a tree. Most of the stuff you need is just lying around anyway.
Plus you'd need to travel fairly light. All the stuff you'd carry could take you longer to get to a place with more reliable stuff. Mabye my list is a bit too short as I can carry most of it in my pockets, but
I don't see why you'd need a bunch of tools though, all that heavy camping shit etc. Just go sleep in someones house or take a blanket and sleep in a tree. Most of the stuff you need is just lying around anyway.
Plus you'd need to travel fairly light. All the stuff you'd carry could take you longer to get to a place with more reliable stuff. Mabye my list is a bit too short as I can carry most of it in my pockets, but
-Duct Tape
-Razorblade
-Coca Cola
-Dice and Cards (for gambling away others items of course!)
-Binoculars
-Assorted other knives and cleavers from around house
-Explosives from basement
-Gasoline
-Backpack
-Soap & toiletries
-Random pills
-Lighter
-Map of Ontario
-Jewelry and other valuables (for sellin' of course!)
Guess that's all. I'd go around Toronto, selling or gambling away items, and killing people if they didn't comply. Sounds pretty fun.
-Razorblade
-Coca Cola
-Dice and Cards (for gambling away others items of course!)
-Binoculars
-Assorted other knives and cleavers from around house
-Explosives from basement
-Gasoline
-Backpack
-Soap & toiletries
-Random pills
-Lighter
-Map of Ontario
-Jewelry and other valuables (for sellin' of course!)
Guess that's all. I'd go around Toronto, selling or gambling away items, and killing people if they didn't comply. Sounds pretty fun.
suppose you're thinking about a plate of shrimp. suddenly somebody will say like 'plate' or 'shrimp' or 'plate of shrimp', out of the blue, no explanation.
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No toothbrush or toothpaste?
1. A good amount of water, maybe a gallon or so.
2. Power bars seem like a really good idea, I'l take some of those.
3. A torch lighter cause they last longer and are hotter
4. 2 or 3 cans of butane.
5. Knife
6. Knife sharpener
7. Some good boots, military boots prefferably.
8. Compass
9. Magnifying glass, in case the ligher breaks and or runs out of fuel
10. Toothbrush and toothpaste.
11. Matches, plan C I guess.
12. Hatchet.
13. Gun and ammo, if I could get a hold of them.
14. U.S. Navy Seals Survival Handbook, or any sruvival book made by the military.
15. Sleeping Bag
16. Ponchos, they do make good tents
17. Rope, a fairly large amount.
18. Toilet Paper, I don't want to accidently wipe my ass with Poison Ivy.
19. Winter clothes
20. The shovel is a good idea also, in the bag/
21. Flare gun, with extra flares.
22. Gloves.
I could be forgetting stuff, but I don't plan to make this bag anytime soon.
1. A good amount of water, maybe a gallon or so.
2. Power bars seem like a really good idea, I'l take some of those.
3. A torch lighter cause they last longer and are hotter
4. 2 or 3 cans of butane.
5. Knife
6. Knife sharpener
7. Some good boots, military boots prefferably.
8. Compass
9. Magnifying glass, in case the ligher breaks and or runs out of fuel
10. Toothbrush and toothpaste.
11. Matches, plan C I guess.
12. Hatchet.
13. Gun and ammo, if I could get a hold of them.
14. U.S. Navy Seals Survival Handbook, or any sruvival book made by the military.
15. Sleeping Bag
16. Ponchos, they do make good tents
17. Rope, a fairly large amount.
18. Toilet Paper, I don't want to accidently wipe my ass with Poison Ivy.
19. Winter clothes
20. The shovel is a good idea also, in the bag/
21. Flare gun, with extra flares.
22. Gloves.
I could be forgetting stuff, but I don't plan to make this bag anytime soon.
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how do u fucks think u can manage to haul all this shit around with no gasoline to power ur fucking stupid big SUVs?
my out bug list:
- me
- lots of ritalin for when i need to think hard
- 1 kg of shrooms for times when i need to kill things
- lots of oreo cookies - 6 packages
- vitamin C dissolvable tablets
- all the water i can pack
- a stilleto knife - those r kewl!
- and my bike to ride away from radiated zombies
i think the best form of transportation in the post-apoc world would probably be a light, sturdy mountain bike.
my out bug list:
- me
- lots of ritalin for when i need to think hard
- 1 kg of shrooms for times when i need to kill things
- lots of oreo cookies - 6 packages
- vitamin C dissolvable tablets
- all the water i can pack
- a stilleto knife - those r kewl!
- and my bike to ride away from radiated zombies
i think the best form of transportation in the post-apoc world would probably be a light, sturdy mountain bike.
bey.
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from what i remember this was a bug out kit, meaning something to get you away from your location fast, not something that's going to sustain u for the rest of your life
my bike has anti-flak tires lined with kevlar and doesn't puncture easily
my bug out kit should sustain me for a month, and if i can't get to somewhere safe in a month on bike then i'm owned?
my bike has anti-flak tires lined with kevlar and doesn't puncture easily
my bug out kit should sustain me for a month, and if i can't get to somewhere safe in a month on bike then i'm owned?
bey.