Are you ready?

InvisibleMonkey · Post by **InvisibleMonkey** » Sun Aug 31, 2003 10:52 pm

I live in the worst part of my town, most people here have guns, if the apacolypse or any other thing that requires evacutaion of some sort, I will be shot then robbed.

airsoft guy · Post by **airsoft guy** » Sun Aug 31, 2003 11:17 pm

You should get your own gun then, it's only logical.

But in Canada you don't have nearly as many angry people living on top of each other like we do here. Plus in the areas with the highest crime they also have the toughest gun laws while in areas with few crimes commited they have lax gun laws. Take Washington D.C. for example, crime out the ass for a mile, handguns have been banned there since 1977 and all long guns must be stored in such a way that it makes it impossible to use them if your house is broken into. New York City, all guns are illegal without a permit and getting a CCP is next to impossible and crime is higher than the highest stoner at Hempfest. The PRK is the same way along with Chicago. Look at the countries with the lowest and highest crime rates and with few exceptions you'll see that countries like England and Australia where where firearms are two shakes of a stick away from banned have soaring crime rates, and countries like Switzerland and Israel have super low crime rates and very lax gun laws.

Anyways back to whatever we were talking about before.

InvisibleMonkey · Post by **InvisibleMonkey** » Mon Sep 01, 2003 12:08 am

How namy of you actually think you can survive the Apoc. or something like it, on your own. Personally I think I may be able to do it, can't quite say but I am optimistic.

Silver · Post by **Silver** » Mon Sep 01, 2003 12:16 am

It all depends on where you live, if you live near a big city, or multiple. Is the area a important zone for the community, does it house militairy facilities, etc.

I live in the Netherlands, less then likely they will nuke there, but then again, London is like 300 'airmiles' away from here...

Let's say the bomb's drop; you going to start your chip-operated-car to run off? Guess it's fried... You going to walk? lewl.

InvisibleMonkey · Post by **InvisibleMonkey** » Mon Sep 01, 2003 12:29 am

I live in Dallas, there are huge fallout shelters underground, They are everywhere. I think I would be safe, and about the car situation, I think the Flinstones had the right idea.

Neon Dingo · Post by **Neon Dingo** » Mon Sep 01, 2003 6:18 am

I live north above Dallas. I live in the area where fallout clouds perfectly miss where I am. It's pretty convenient. I also live next to a huge body of water full of catfish and large-mouthed bass and there's plenty of shit that walks on land to shoot that you can eat...

Anyway, I'd more than likely travel very light at first after things calm down, then I'd try and round up a few people, say three or four, and find an abandoned shopping mall, Dawn of the Dead style, and create a base of operations there.

If I'm not mistaken, MREs have a shelf-life of over 50 years. So does Spam.

Gotta make sure to stock up on ammo, too. It'll be really hard finding any if you don't have your own. It definitely won't be as easy as it was in Fallout.

airsoft guy · Post by **airsoft guy** » Mon Sep 01, 2003 7:06 am

I think I'd go Day of the Dead style and find me a military base to live on. You can't go wrong with howitzers and automatic wepons, plus you can sell them or arm a militia, and the damn place is stocked full of supplies. Of course this is assuming that the military personel have all left for one reason or another.

Although if I had to for some reason leave my house now and go survive because of a war or something I've got just about everything I need in this room. Behind me is my rifle, in front of me is a box of 20 rounds, I've got cleaning equipment for the gun, lighter fluid, books out the ass, and if you gave me a couple minutes I could find the survival book, a couple airguns, two pairs of camofluage pants, a camoflauge jacket, my Carhart coat (those things are practicly bulletproof) a couple knives, somewhere in here is my survival pack, got almost everything I need to survive in a tiny little package that goes on your belt, two pairs of gloves, a machete, I've also got a broken handle from a shovle that I slapped some duct tape on to make a grip for a club, like three rolls of duct tape, box of matches, label maker (hey after the bomb there is no law and i don't need people taking my shit, and if they do and I complain and they give me sass about my name not being on it I can punch them in the dick and pointout my name is indeed on there.) if you people would let me I could go get the loaded .44 and two speedloaders and a couple shotgun shells (unless I break open the gun safe I don't have a shotgun to use them in but I could pick up a shotgun later), if I could get into the gun safe I would snatch up my .22 and the .22 revolver and all the ammo I could carry for it (5,000+), spare .44 magnum ammo and maybe a shotgun (I know, I love my firearms way too much, I'd have to get a couple freinds over here to help me get them all, but in reality I've still got my family to help carry shit) got a pantry full of canned foods and I think some civilian type MRE things still, about 800 waterbottles, I've got my steel helmet, pair of minoculars, a book about rural skills so I can build fancy shit afterwards. Then there's the garage, don't get me started there. We've also got a water truck so if there was a warning of somekind about the colapse or war we can fire that up and hook it to the hydrant behind my grandfather's house. Hey look at that, an assload of left over rockets from the 4th of July, good times.

trythebill · Post by **trythebill** » Mon Sep 01, 2003 8:52 am

airsoft guy wrote:I think I'd go Day of the Dead style and find me a military base to live on. You can't go wrong with howitzers and automatic wepons, plus you can sell them or arm a militia, and the damn place is stocked full of supplies. Of course this is assuming that the military personel have all left for one reason or another.

you cannot seriously consider that as a feasible possibility. there is no way a standing army is going to desert AND leave behind small arms and artillery. even if there were large weapons left behind how in the hell would you use them? tanks need multiple crewmembers and significant training time to use at all, artillery more so. do you know how to aim a 155mm howitzer? can you load the heavy shells by yourself? you would be better off going for light weapons and not attempting to hold a position in a heavily populated area. wilderness areas would be most conducive to survival. if there were still soldiers on post there is very little chance you would ever make it inside. they would most likely shoot on sight.

Also, 20 rounds is not much for any firearm, something on the order of 500-2000 rounds would be much better for survival when ammunition would become extremely rare and valuable. a helmet would most likely do you little good, you would most likely not be facing sharpnel and most rifle rounds would penetrate it anyway. you would be better served by carrying more water instead. a good assault rig would be something you might want too, nothing is worse than trying to stuff magazines or stripper clips into pockets. a ballistic vest should rank high on your list of needed equipment too.

OnTheBounce · Post by **OnTheBounce** » Mon Sep 01, 2003 9:16 am

Neon Dingo wrote:If I'm not mistaken, MREs have a shelf-life of over 50 years. So does Spam.

MREs have to be inspected once every seven years, IIRC. I seriously doubt that they would last 50 years as I've bitten into more than a few bad ones in my time. What you want to watch for is packages that have an odd mix of meals, not 1 each from #1 to #12. Those come from a lot that has gone through reinspection. Also, tape on the cardboard boxes that hold the food pouches is another bad sign.

Something that you want to watch out for when eating MREs is not to subsist on an MRE-pure diet for more than 60 days w/o taking vitamin supplements. MREs are irradiated to kill certain bacteria, and this has the unfortunate side effect of killing off the Vitamin E. You can go w/o Vitamin E for about 60 days, after that you're looking at jaundice and other problems.

As for SPAM...I think that falls into the "it's definitely not edible, who knows if is ever was?" category.

(I'm kidding here. I remember once when I was really hungry a friend of mine and I had SPAM and crackers and it was a damned feast.)

OTB

airsoft guy · Post by **airsoft guy** » Mon Sep 01, 2003 9:31 am

20 rouunds is all I've got for it right now, besides, she's not a combat rifle, well she is but she's really a hunting rifle now, more for getting food and maybe if I had to aquire a new weapon, from a distance of course, besides, I've got two other boxes of spent brass and a die set, assuming my stepgrandfather survives the bad times he's got all the rest of what I need. If there was bad times happening we'd go there as he has lockers full of rifles, sure they're hunting rifles but they're weapons nonetheless. We can use those to fend off other people and hunt game (not all people will have firearms you know) and for close in work we have 3 shotguns and 3 handguns. All we need to do is head off to the woods and build a little village and live off the land, accepting people into our community. Hey I just thought of something, I live in a manufactured home, we can put wheels on it and drive it away, good times. Plus I can gather a bunch of people I know from around here (since almost everyone out here has somekind of firearm, former rural community being over run with yuppies, those are the first to go I tell ya.) and we all ride out of town, like some strange Clint Eastwood movie, just slowly moving out, guns drawn and a tape with that chink-chink-chink spur noise because I don't think many people have spurs for that cool sound. Speaking of spurs, neighbors have horses and cows, I know my next door neighbors would want in with us because my dad knows how to butcher, and enjoys doing it. Hell we could all stay home because we live on the top of a hill, just put up barricades amd armed guards, once more, good times. If it's something that dosn't affect electricity we could just load up all of our shit in out cars and trucks and trailers and drive off to the mountains.

The steel helmet is excelent for survival though, you can boil larger amounts of water to put in your canteen or water bottle.

Of course I was joking about the military base, those are impossible and I'm not going 45 minutes out of my way to snatch a couple M-16's and NVG's however useful they may be, we'd lose too many people and then the military comes after us after law is restored, or even before when they can do all sorts of crazy shit to us. Maybe bartering with them but that's it even though it's totaly out of the question because they have everything they need.