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King of Creation
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 10:26 am Reply with quoteBack to top

[ Game -> Editorial ] - More info on Game: Skyrim

As we can probably expect the next Fallout game to be built using the DX9 Gamebryo/Skyrim engine, it looks like we'll have Skyrim's horrible UI to look forward to unless Obsidian does some ridiculous tweaking. From Gamasutra:

After spending a couple of hours with the game, there's no other way for me to say it: Skyrim is one of the worst PC ports I have ever had the displeasure of playing. Though many issues will likely be fixed and improved as time goes on, and undoubtedly mods by more enterprising gamers will help additional problems, the release state of Skyrim is, frankly, inexcusable. "Appalling" is not a word I use too lightly to describe a game, but it's the only one that fits here.

After Fallout 3's interface left me with a bad taste in my mouth, I wasn't expecting Skyrim's interface to astound - indeed, preview footage lead me to believe that it was a classic case of Bethesda once again trading in functionality for looks. Fair enough, that's nothing new. I can struggle through the UI, even if it's a bit wonky, until someone comes out with a replacement. Unfortunately, Skyrim's PC user interface is quite possibly the clunkiest and most difficult I have ever seen in a game made after the DOS era. I have played games from 1985 that were infinitely more usable than Skyrim; that a modern game makes so many elementary mistakes suggests a certain kind of malevolence, not simple laziness.

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Bomb the QA Department

One final damning point about Skyrim's PC port - it's horribly, pathetically optimized, and has major compatibility issues. Right from the bat, I knew that something was wrong when my high-end system was getting framerates in the low 20s from time to time, and when performance did not improve upon lowering the graphics options. Things became even more suspicious when I realized that there was no rhyme or reason for any of the framerate drops - whether I was outside in the overworld, the terrain stretching into the distance, or inside a tiny shop the size of a prison cell, the game's framerate fluctuates all over the place. There's no question about this: Skyrim is badly optimized.

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"Mods will fix it" is a phrase commonly uttered when Bethesda games are mentioned, and it's certainly true that their often-buggy and occasionally-broken games have been substantially improved by their extremely dedicated fan community - I probably would not have got through Fallout: New Vegas or Oblivion if it wasn't for the countless hours fans spent overhauling the game's interface and fixing the bugs Bethesda refused to officially acknowledge. Even so, Skyrim's PC release is a new low for Bethesda - it's not that the PC version was a low priority for them, it's that it was no priority at all.

Bethesda's QA Department has dropped the ball again, just like with RAGE. We know you think the PC is too hard to develop on Pete, but come on.

Be sure to click here and read the rest of the Gamasutra article, as it's just too ridiculous to ignore.

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Retlaw83
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 1:44 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

In the menus, you have to use your left and right arrows to move between categories, then either use the up and down key or scroll wheel to bring the thing you want under a selector, then either click the mouse or hit enter. It is impossible to click directly on what you want - unless it's in the pause menu, then the rules are different.

There's no question in my mind Bethesda is going to develop Fallout 4 instead of letting a competent studio do it. At least this time everyone here will be smart enough to not pay money for it, unlike Fallout 3 which I think a lot of people gave a fair chance.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 3:25 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I don't quite like too many dragons in my games. The occasional is ok I suppose, but too many is just plain gay.

While unicorns are more blatantly lady-boy gay dragons are surely german moustache leather clad gay. Different package, but still loves having it up the old manhole.

So I lost interest in skyrim first when it was announced, then again as the dragon info was released by Todd declaring how fagtastic they are.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 5:49 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Fallout 4 - Skyrim with guns! icon_dance
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 7:38 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Fallout New Andreas - S.T.A.L.K.E.R. with dragons salute
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 8:43 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Gimp Mask wrote:
Fallout New Andreas - S.T.A.L.K.E.R. with dragons salute

That could actually work if the right developers do it.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 9:15 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

As I recall it stalker had dragons. They were in meg's preview gallery anyways.
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King of Creation
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 3:08 am Reply with quoteBack to top

It's true.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 6:53 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

well duh
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 3:26 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Retlaw83 wrote:

At least this time everyone here will be smart enough to not pay money for it, unlike Fallout 3 which I think a lot of people gave a fair chance.


Doubt it. Enough time always goes by for people to rewrite history in their heads. Idiots said the same thing after Oblivion and Fallout 3. But you all still ran out and bought New Vegas and Skyrim the day they came out because you're so damn afraid of being left out of the conversation.
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Retlaw83
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 8:48 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I didn't buy Skyrim. I pirated it to see how laughably bad what the idiots are loving is then deleted it. And I knew NV was going to be good because Obsidian is competent, so I bought that.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:04 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Mismatch wrote:
I don't quite like too many dragons in my games. The occasional is ok I suppose, but too many is just plain gay.

While unicorns are more blatantly lady-boy gay dragons are surely german moustache leather clad gay. Different package, but still loves having it up the old manhole.

So I lost interest in skyrim first when it was announced, then again as the dragon info was released by Todd declaring how fagtastic they are.


Hah, this is very true.

It really sucks buying a game that sucks specifically more on one platform than another. Buying BF3 on console you can tell it really sucks compared to the PC and you get depressed. I know skyrim sucks in general, but this betterism must stop.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 6:14 am Reply with quoteBack to top

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAM9C_Ik_QU
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 10:26 am Reply with quoteBack to top

No. Just no. I can handle all of the goatse, the tubgirl, everything you guys put on here, but please no MLP. That is where I draw the line.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 5:39 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

jetbaby wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAM9C_Ik_QU
2:11
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