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King of Creation
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 5:47 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

[ Game -> Update ] - More info on Game: Fallout: New Vegas

It seems that after a press event in Las Vegas that we reported on, Obsidian and Bethesda are showing Fallout: New Vegas off across the pond. Tom Hopkins is editor of the UK based website NowGamer has tweeted the following:

I'm lucky enough to be seeing Brink, Fallout: NV and Rage this week - what does everyone want to know about them?

In addition, I asked The Escaptist editor in Chief Russ Pitts when we might get to read the information he gathered at the New Vegas press event last week. His response:

I'll be able to spill the deets on Fallout New Vegas next month.

I speak for the entire Fallout community when I say that we really hope it's not the same info that was released in the print magazines.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 7:26 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Hopefully there's a new video once the summer comes around.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 7:38 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

King of Creation wrote:
I speak for the entire Fallout community when I say that we really hope it's not the same info that was released in the print magazines.


i don't get why they'd need to give the silent treatment now if that were the case. not that Bethesda's m.o. generally makes fuck for sense, but still.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 7:39 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

i cant wait to see some more stuff for Rage.. since Zeni bought out ID, they shut down the page-all you can find out thereare some demo clips from the quakecom
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 3:26 am Reply with quoteBack to top

TwinkieGorilla wrote:
King of Creation wrote:
I speak for the entire Fallout community when I say that we really hope it's not the same info that was released in the print magazines.


i don't get why they'd need to give the silent treatment now if that were the case. not that Bethesda's m.o. generally makes fuck for sense, but still.

The reason Beth doesn't want to release anything else is because if they give away many details about their game, their target audience (12 year old console kids with ADD) will simply forget all about the game and forget to buy it when it comes out.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 3:53 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Either that, or if they reveal too much, it gives the audience time to realise it's just going to be Fallout 3 with hunger replacing radiation. A lot of Fallout 3 fans are weary that they bought into mainstream zilch, hence the marketing move of having Obsidian make it.

At the moment, with Obsidian at the wheel, the fanbase can still feel like badass indie kids, whilst at the same time get their hopes up. Bethesda can't risk it getting out that it's just another soulless cash-in, not yet. Their move now is to cover up as much of the actual game as possible, hype up its new features whilst keeping quiet about the fact the negative aspects have not been rectified, then sell. By the time the F3 fanbase realise it's shit, it wont matter, they'll have already bought it, a large percentage of those through pre-order.

Upon sale, the fanbase will shrink, the majority leaving, with only the die hard fans left (they'll stay, they consider Fallout 3 the first in the series so a shitty sequel wont mean anything to them, they'll just assume Fallout 4 will rectify everything). No game can survive on just die hard fans alone, not for too long. After that, they'll MAYBE release some DLC's (probably not, as it isn't going to be a true sequel). Commercially, it will be a success, leaving Bethesda with two choices:

a) Ignore the resentment and release ANOTHER Fallout 3 and call it 4, resulting in poor sales

b) Listen to the Fallout 3 fans who they have betrayed, try and radically change the gameplay, chase away the few retards they have left, resulting in poor sales

They will choose a), as it is cheaper. Because of this they can also risk poor sales. New Vegas is them pushing it too far, being cocky by simply selling the same thing AGAIN. NV is the end of Bethesda's success with the franshise. Fallout 4 will tank, as NV will chase away all but the hardcore fans, who again, won't be enough to support overall sales.

So, knowing this, they are simply hiding as many details as possible in hopes NV will allow them to scrape a bit more cash from the franchise before tanking it with F4 and selling it cheap, probably to Obsidian, who'll buy it thinking they'll be able to attract original Fallout fans, not realising that the franchise will have been bled to death, with only a very slim chance of reviving it.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 4:52 am Reply with quoteBack to top

regardless of who is makig what game.. if you had a game that sold well, you would hype up and then keep secret as much about the next game as possible.. thats just business. i dont care whos making what game or for who.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 1:33 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Yonmanc wrote:
Either that, or if they reveal too much, it gives the audience time to realise it's just going to be Fallout 3 with hunger replacing radiation. A lot of Fallout 3 fans are weary that they bought into mainstream zilch, hence the marketing move of having Obsidian make it.

At the moment, with Obsidian at the wheel, the fanbase can still feel like badass indie kids, whilst at the same time get their hopes up. Bethesda can't risk it getting out that it's just another soulless cash-in, not yet. Their move now is to cover up as much of the actual game as possible, hype up its new features whilst keeping quiet about the fact the negative aspects have not been rectified, then sell. By the time the F3 fanbase realise it's shit, it wont matter, they'll have already bought it, a large percentage of those through pre-order.

Upon sale, the fanbase will shrink, the majority leaving, with only the die hard fans left (they'll stay, they consider Fallout 3 the first in the series so a shitty sequel wont mean anything to them, they'll just assume Fallout 4 will rectify everything). No game can survive on just die hard fans alone, not for too long. After that, they'll MAYBE release some DLC's (probably not, as it isn't going to be a true sequel). Commercially, it will be a success, leaving Bethesda with two choices:

a) Ignore the resentment and release ANOTHER Fallout 3 and call it 4, resulting in poor sales

b) Listen to the Fallout 3 fans who they have betrayed, try and radically change the gameplay, chase away the few retards they have left, resulting in poor sales

They will choose a), as it is cheaper. Because of this they can also risk poor sales. New Vegas is them pushing it too far, being cocky by simply selling the same thing AGAIN. NV is the end of Bethesda's success with the franshise. Fallout 4 will tank, as NV will chase away all but the hardcore fans, who again, won't be enough to support overall sales.

So, knowing this, they are simply hiding as many details as possible in hopes NV will allow them to scrape a bit more cash from the franchise before tanking it with F4 and selling it cheap, probably to Obsidian, who'll buy it thinking they'll be able to attract original Fallout fans, not realising that the franchise will have been bled to death, with only a very slim chance of reviving it.


eh, yeah. not really sure that's what's happening here. but i do agree that 911 was caused by a collaboration between ufo's and the spirit of Philip K. Dick.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 2:22 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

TwinkieGorilla wrote:
Yonmanc wrote:
Either that, or if they reveal too much, it gives the audience time to realise it's just going to be Fallout 3 with hunger replacing radiation. A lot of Fallout 3 fans are weary that they bought into mainstream zilch, hence the marketing move of having Obsidian make it.

At the moment, with Obsidian at the wheel, the fanbase can still feel like badass indie kids, whilst at the same time get their hopes up. Bethesda can't risk it getting out that it's just another soulless cash-in, not yet. Their move now is to cover up as much of the actual game as possible, hype up its new features whilst keeping quiet about the fact the negative aspects have not been rectified, then sell. By the time the F3 fanbase realise it's shit, it wont matter, they'll have already bought it, a large percentage of those through pre-order.

Upon sale, the fanbase will shrink, the majority leaving, with only the die hard fans left (they'll stay, they consider Fallout 3 the first in the series so a shitty sequel wont mean anything to them, they'll just assume Fallout 4 will rectify everything). No game can survive on just die hard fans alone, not for too long. After that, they'll MAYBE release some DLC's (probably not, as it isn't going to be a true sequel). Commercially, it will be a success, leaving Bethesda with two choices:

a) Ignore the resentment and release ANOTHER Fallout 3 and call it 4, resulting in poor sales

b) Listen to the Fallout 3 fans who they have betrayed, try and radically change the gameplay, chase away the few retards they have left, resulting in poor sales

They will choose a), as it is cheaper. Because of this they can also risk poor sales. New Vegas is them pushing it too far, being cocky by simply selling the same thing AGAIN. NV is the end of Bethesda's success with the franshise. Fallout 4 will tank, as NV will chase away all but the hardcore fans, who again, won't be enough to support overall sales.

So, knowing this, they are simply hiding as many details as possible in hopes NV will allow them to scrape a bit more cash from the franchise before tanking it with F4 and selling it cheap, probably to Obsidian, who'll buy it thinking they'll be able to attract original Fallout fans, not realising that the franchise will have been bled to death, with only a very slim chance of reviving it.


eh, yeah. not really sure that's what's happening here. but i do agree that 911 was caused by a collaboration between ufo's and the spirit of Philip K. Dick.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 5:55 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Rage looks really fun, but where are they with that.. I saw the trailer last year.. but it is going to be a huge game. I think about 14 gigs at least, if not 20. just speculation on the detail and stuff.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 8:04 am Reply with quoteBack to top

The biggest problem? The information might be new, but it'll still be spoken from a mouth wrapped firmly around Bethcock. Russ Pitts is a pretty good example of a journalistic cock sucker tbh.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 2:45 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I only get my Fallout: NV news from Leaving Las Vegas.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 4:22 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Psychoul wrote:
Rage looks really fun, but where are they with that.. I saw the trailer last year.. but it is going to be a huge game. I think about 14 gigs at least, if not 20. just speculation on the detail and stuff.

they were about done with it, then they hushed it all when Zeni bought out ID. they had a great site with all kinds of content and everything.

my thoughts is that right now, it is going to take away from NV< so theyll wait until after that is realeased before they do anything with it..

ive also said it a few times, but i think F4 will most likely be built with Tech 5...
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