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cazsim83
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 5:11 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

From the beyond the spirits call to me....I am sensing....imminent asshat-ery....
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 6:17 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

cazsim83 wrote:
From the beyond the spirits call to me....I am sensing....imminent asshat-ery....


How about a !kickban
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VasikkA
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 6:31 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

cazsim83 wrote:
From the beyond the spirits call to me....I am sensing....imminent asshat-ery....

Why? icon_confused2
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entertainer
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 6:35 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

the_BlackPipMan wrote:
don't worry you can wrap your lips back around Mismatched penor.


you can wrap your lips back around todds penor?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 7:40 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

entertainer wrote:
the_BlackPipMan wrote:
don't worry you can wrap your lips back around Mismatched penor.


you can wrap your lips back around todds penor?


you have wounded my fragile male ego...deeply

Frater Perdurabo wrote:
Fallout was the type of game that allowed third person camera. Sure, sometimes it was annoying that you had to walk all the way next to the wall to look for containers, but that was a minor issue.


a minor issue to you. to me thats a MAJOR gameplay defect. a minor issue to me is non killable children and groin shot.

2 things many hard core fallout fans cry about.

Quote:
If you build the game up on minute detail and eye-candy, third person is no longer viable. Third person does not allow you to notice detail from different angles in a 3D game, thus such actions as looking into containers, at different walls, etc will be a much more difficult.


dejavu? your concerned you wont be able to notice containers and notice detailed objects from that view.

sound kind of like the originals.

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it was annoying that you had to walk all the way next to the wall to look for containers, but that was a minor issue.



which is it?
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St. Toxic
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 4:38 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I think it's more along the lines of a fp view easily becoming cluttered with visuals, and also the 90 degrees of visibility that you have at all times. Having an overhead view allows you to easily scan the perimeter to find the objects you are looking for, which is harder to do with a game that tries to achieve realistic graphics in a fpv; trying to find a box in the jungles of Vietcong (the game), would for instance be harder than finding a marble in Arcanum.

Also, a fp view eliminates some stat bonuses of perception, which would allow you to find things and make observations about the enviroment that others with a lower perception couldn't have done, since you would actively have to look for these, say, items yourself.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 6:11 am Reply with quoteBack to top

A simple example of this and their claimed semi iso view is that if they say, stacked 2 objects or chests on a shelf, in FPV you would be able to easily select between the two, when in iso it would necessitate either one single static object to check, or a switch of viewpoints - which should not be necessary. The other thing is that an FPS needs QUITE more time spent on art, on details inside of environments due to the fact you can now look through windows, into containers, rather than a third person game where some of the details/mapping/shaders can be sacrificed yet retain the same quality of game. This puts strain on the coders/art teams/company and means some other goals will be pushed out. Since when are graphics the main thing in an rpg in the first place?
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VasikkA
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 5:48 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

At least the dialogue is still turn-based. dumb
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Psychoul
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 2:10 am Reply with quoteBack to top

^^ haha , well fallout 3 looks good, i preordered the collectors edition already (i dont know why icon_drunk ) but the game looks great and cant wait to play it XD, and it sounds and looks great. my only hope is that they are true to their word about dialogue being alot better than oblivion.
[that was gay.. hella random but comprahensive vid about the *NEW* oblivion dialogue system being kick ass ( and i like the way that they use only one person as the test ) .]
everything else looks fucking awesome and the world looks full of stuff.
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Frater Perdurabo
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 2:12 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Bethsoft asskissing forums are that way ------->
Don't come back.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 11:14 am Reply with quoteBack to top

yeah fallout 3 looks good great and awesome indeed xDD icon_hahano
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 6:30 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

'News' To Me




VasikkA wrote:
At least the dialogue is still turn-based.


Excellent.


Consider the 'news' factor of this knowledge.

I have been following the FO3 circus all this time and have yet to see this observation presented in such a succinctly hilarious missive.

More hilarious than "Bloody Mess".

In fact if B-soft came up with this level of FO commentary,
their proclaimed familiarity with, and their delivery of, FO noire might be convincing.

I suggest this insight is front page 'parody' news worthy,
and would be a possible hook to lure in the chatty rpg types you all tend to love to mock.

cazsim83 could do a 'scripted' interview with VasikkA, and of course miss spell his name.

Mumble incoherently about the dubious communication skills of the target demographic and how frustrating 'real - reality - real time' dialogue is for the average game playing, eternally adolescent, male.

Speculate that B-soft wishes to nurture these valued clients. Need to walk before they can run.

Speculate that B-soft just doesn't have the technology to make the dialogue 'real time'. Need to walk before they can run.

Hypothesize that FO4 might break this articulative barrier,
and all that play will become the hip hop rappers of their white bread dreams!
Just like Guitar Hero has unleashed our inner air guitar virtuosity.
Not well enough to score with chicks, want these boys to stay bizzy with B-soft softwarz!
Talkin' trash to Radiant AI.

Need to talk before they can 'rhyme'.



4too
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 7:52 am Reply with quoteBack to top

fallout 3 is awesome!?!?!?!??!??!?!?????
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 9:14 am Reply with quoteBack to top

for retards.
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Maccy Man
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 1:09 am Reply with quoteBack to top

entertainer wrote:
for retards.


so why don't you play it more often i personally have a IQ over 138 so im not a tard.
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cazsim83
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 2:46 am Reply with quoteBack to top

my penis size is over 138 too! omg!
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MadBill
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 5:11 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Apparently F03 goodness is too highbrow for us make believe morons.
Hail manwhosit and his wasted fake brain.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 7:40 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Athos gave f3 a 10 out 10 and hes the good of gaming and atheism.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 2:10 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Maccy Man wrote:
Athos gave f3 a 10 out 10 and hes the good of gaming and atheism.

I give you a 10/10 for Effort. 2/10 for Execution.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 2:34 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Stunt Stun Sun Sn S wrote:
138


The requisite banners would explain the epilepsy and validity both. Commiserations. icon_drunk
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