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King of Creation
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 3:42 am Reply with quoteBack to top

[ Game -> Article ] - More info on Game: Fallout 3

The Official Fallout webite over at Bethesda has been updated with a developer diary from Lead Designer Emil Pagliarulo. There's a lot of interesting information and concept art about the new Brotherhood of Steel. Highlights:

...So it really didn’t come as a surprise to anyone within the Brotherhood of Steel when the order’s ruling council, based in Southern California, decided to send a contingent of soldiers all the way to the East Coast, with two important objectives:

  1. To scour the ruins of Washington D.C., once the nation’s capital, and recover any and all advanced technology. After all, D.C. was the home of the Pentagon, the very headquarters of the United States Department of Defense. Who knows what secrets – or equipment – they left behind?
  2. To investigate the reports of Super Mutant activity in the area. Could these creatures be somehow related to those that fled eastward after the Master’s destruction (as depicted at the end of Fallout 1). Or were these Super Mutants something else entirely?
Check out the whole thing here. Definitely worth a read.

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johnnygothisgun
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 5:52 am Reply with quoteBack to top

hopefully someone can enlighten me if my assumption is incorrect, but here goes:

i always assumed that when the vault dweller destroyed mariposa and the cathedral the majority of the mutants died as a result. i figured that the mutants who survived and fled east were a tiny group? not enough for them to be the common mook enemy that they appear to be in f3?

also the bos was a very small organization with no more than 200 or so members at the time of f1, and 80 years later, in f2 it was in decline and was even smaller. how or why would they bother sending anyone to the east coast?

i havent read the fallout bibles in years so i guess my assumptions could be false
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 6:00 am Reply with quoteBack to top

King of Creation wrote:
Definitely worth a read.


*cough*terrible justifications written after writing the terrible plotline*cough*
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 7:35 am Reply with quoteBack to top

....

I just get more depressed the more I read about Bethesda's necrophilic raping of a once great franchise.

Fuck them in their collective asshole.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 10:13 am Reply with quoteBack to top

johnnygothisgun wrote:
hopefully someone can enlighten me if my assumption is incorrect, but here goes:

i always assumed that when the vault dweller destroyed mariposa and the cathedral the majority of the mutants died as a result. i figured that the mutants who survived and fled east were a tiny group? not enough for them to be the common mook enemy that they appear to be in f3?
...


The main mutant force was hidden in the mountains.

This is referenced at least once in FO.

I just can't remember where.


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also the bos was a very small organization with no more than 200 or so members at the time of f1, and 80 years later, in f2 it was in decline and was even smaller. how or why would they bother sending anyone to the east coast?


Yeah, that's a poser.

Assume that the non-splinter guys helped build the airships for the splinter guys and then packed all of the splinter guys on board...

How many airships did the BOS send east in the [non-canon] tactics?

A dozen? Less? How many people in each? A dozen?

So there must have been a lot more than 200 BOS to start with.

I assume that the BOS would have encouraged reproduction but also encouraged planned births due to being in a vault.

Still, they could have had a total population of close to 1000 by the time of FO 1.

FOT splintering takes 20% off...

Maybe this could work.

But no way are they going to have an East Coast presence unless some genius rediscovered radios.

The BOS may have spread the gospel via AM just like ... now.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 3:06 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

here goes a positive comment: I like the art
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 3:18 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Here goes a more positive comment: omg this game rocks, i loved oblivion lol its liek so much fun i cant wait graphix are unbelievable so cool im now playing halo3 but cant wait for fallout3 lol i dunno whi its '3' but lol i love it
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 4:47 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

So they're continuing the Tactics/FOBOS storyline? icon_confused2
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 4:50 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

asdf


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 5:23 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

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But Elder Owyn Lyons had another priority, one he considered more important than his original directive or any orders received since the protection of the innocent people of the Capital Wasteland.


Say whaaaaaa?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 6:07 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

edhead wrote:
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But Elder Owyn Lyons had another priority, one he considered more important than his original directive or any orders received since the protection of the innocent people of the Capital Wasteland.


Say whaaaaaa?


qfe
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 6:16 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

after reading the dev diary, im actually comforted. game mechanics are still a huge issue, but as long as beth takes care to explain carefully and sensibly the reasons for the brotherhood and mutants to be on the east coast, i can probably go with that
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 6:33 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

johnnygothisgun wrote:
as long as beth takes care to explain carefully and sensibly the reasons for the brotherhood and mutants to be on the east coast

And the reasons why BOS is such a faggy, knightly, non-canon organization in Fallout 3.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 12:59 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

edhead wrote:
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But Elder Owyn Lyons had another priority, one he considered more important than his original directive or any orders received since the protection of the innocent people of the Capital Wasteland.


Say whaaaaaa?
this gets 5 Chucks out of 2 Herves
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 1:55 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I don't know, maybe I'm not reading behind the lines here enough, but why is everyone still saying that the BOS is some crazy knightly order, set to protect the innocent? According to that dev post, the BOS are still the same technophiles they've always been, and the "Outcasts" are the BOS everyone be hatin' on.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 2:07 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

No, it's the other way around. The Outcasts are the isolationistic technophiles, while the Capital Wasteland BOS are chivalrous kinghts.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 2:31 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

entertainer wrote:
whi


you totally won me over at "whi"
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 3:20 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Ausir wrote:
No, it's the other way around. The Outcasts are the isolationistic technophiles, while the Capital Wasteland BOS are chivalrous kinghts.


Oh.

Oooohhhhh.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 3:31 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

(insert random hate-based insult)
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 7:59 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

maybe we can mod the game to change all references to BOS/FO1/FO2 to something new, East-Coast based. Might wash the lousy taste out.
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