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JHMN
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 6:36 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

[ Game -> Interview ] - News related to Top Story: Fallout 3 news | More info on Person: Tim Cain | More info on Game: Fallout 3

Here's what Tim said asked for comments on F3:

Hey Brendon, I'm not commenting on the Fallout 3 game. Since it's been almost ten years since I worked on the original games, I am not sure I am even in a position to accurately review it. Besides, the end of Troika marked the end of my public career. I will still make games, but I will let other people market, demo and otherwise shout their goodness into the airwaves.

Rest assured that I plan to play Fallout 3 when it comes out. I am as expectant as any fan, but I am going to reserve comment and judgment until I can play the finished game.

In the opinion of GamerNode, it would be better to wait until the release of the game so as to be able to express judgements about it as a whole, like Cain suggests.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 7:24 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Right...lets all go out and buy it...then review it amongst ourselves....highly unlikely for myself.








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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 7:36 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

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As GamerNode points out, maybe it would be better to wait until the release of the game to express any judgements, just as Cain.


Fantastic. Who is this SDF now? Teatime's younger brother? His buttbuddy? You grab random people now and give them newsposter status? Good fucking going, DACK.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 7:37 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Yes, because everyone knows the most useful time to criticise a game is after release.

Who hired this guy, Teaspoon?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 7:39 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

He's a guy from Polish DAC that also started to post news in the English section recently.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 7:44 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I'll reserve judgment on the game until my brother plays it. If he likes it, then I will know it's crap.
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Seriously, though, it may be a good (or even great) action game (and if it is, I may purchase a used copy of it, a couple of years from now), but it seems pretty clear to me that it's about as far as you can get from a Fallout game without turning it into Hexen.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 7:53 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Brother None wrote:
Yes, because everyone knows the most useful time to criticise a game is after release.

Who hired this guy, Teaspoon?


I needed newsposting help since I'm going to be pretty much MIA for the next few weeks as I move to Taiwan, and he volunteered to post English news as well as his normal Polish news.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 8:06 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I think it is normal in the game industry to be polite and NOT comment on other developer's work in progress. And maybe Tim Cain also has career in gaming to think of not ruining??
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 8:25 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Maybe. But when you read what he says you can kind of tell he's unhappy with what they're doing when he says this,
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... but I am going to reserve comment and judgment until I can play the finished game.

You can see that he probably doesn't like what they're doing with it right now, but won't directly say it until he can verify that the game, and what they're doing to it, sucks.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 8:41 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

i`ll make a mod for Fallout 3. icon_dance and everything is gonna be good again. lots of UZIs, prostitutes and other good stuff.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 9:00 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Koki wrote:
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As GamerNode points out, maybe it would be better to wait until the release of the game to express any judgements, just as Cain.


Fantastic. Who is this SDF now? Teatime's younger brother? His buttbuddy? You grab random people now and give them newsposter status? Good fucking going, DACK.


King of Creation wrote:
Brother None wrote:
Yes, because everyone knows the most useful time to criticise a game is after release.

Who hired this guy, Teaspoon?


I needed newsposting help since I'm going to be pretty much MIA for the next few weeks as I move to Taiwan, and he volunteered to post English news as well as his normal Polish news.




Hell, just make Ausir or koki or susan newsposters, hell make me a newsposter again even.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 9:11 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Where's Tim working anyway?

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 9:23 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

PsychoSniper2 wrote:

Hell, just make Ausir or koki or susan newsposters, hell make me a newsposter again even.


I am an admin, I can post news, I'm just too lazy.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 9:40 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

just make me admin ffs angry
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 9:55 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Sorry for trying to be too objective, I've done it since I was criticised for being too biased on DAC PL. I promise to choose words better and more appropriately in the future. What was really meant is not that it paying/buying the game is necessary to have a right to assess it but to wait for the end of the works on it so as to have a possibility to take a looke at a finished product (who knows, maybe there will be a demo this time). Besides, Cain's words can be also considered as a veiled criticism, like he is not saying a word not because he works for another company but because it's not worth commenting.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 10:53 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Haha. Great choice for an English news poster, KOC.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 10:56 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Like someone already said, Tim was probably just being professional... he probably wouldn't want someone commenting on his unfinished work, though it is apparent that it is a failure.

However, it would be nice if developers were a bit more open to community input when they take on a long standing license with a loyal fan base. Like Blizzard is doing with SC2.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 11:09 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

JHMN: this might be a shocker, but...you don't have to post your personal feelings in the newspost. You could stick to just posting news.

S4ur0n27 wrote:
Where's Tim working anyway?


NCSoft.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 11:53 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

^__^ Frackin' Koreans are eating up all the good developers...and turning them into anime.

Developers should be professional. We can be assholes. Though some days I kind of wish the games industry had the whole East Coast/West Coast black gang feud thing going, complete with nightclub shootings and source code sabotage.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 6:00 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Ausir wrote:
PsychoSniper2 wrote:

Hell, just make Ausir or koki or susan newsposters, hell make me a newsposter again even.


I am an admin, I can post news, I'm just too lazy.



Meh, maek me a newsposter again.

I make no claim of objectivity, but Ill try HARD to keep goatse out of the newspost (off of the front page at least, assuming the submissions work like they did last time I had access ....... )
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