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King of Creation
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 12:25 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

[ Game -> Article ] - More info on Game: Bioshock

I thought this was kind of relevant...

Irrational's Ken Levine was interviewed by Team XBox about his upcoming game Bioshock (which I'm sure eveyone has heard of by now). In this interview, Ken discusses the fact that there is no multiplayer in Bioshock, and he offers a very good reason why:

What about multiplayer?

Ken Levine: Not in this game.

Is that something…

Ken Levine: A lot of people ask about it. If we had multiplayer in this game, BioShock would not be the game it is. You only have so many hours in the day.

The list of games that have ground-breaking [gameplay]…whether it's GTA or, I'm trying to think…even the initial Half-Life multiplayer was kind of a joke. Nobody played the initial Half-Life deathmatch. It wasn't until there was Counter-Strike.

It's very hard to do a ground-breaking game and do [good multiplayer] at the same time. We only want to do ground-breaking crap. If we can't do it ground breaking, I'm not just going to do something like, "Oh, and by the way, there's a multiplayer mode"…so, guess what, we're not going to put it on the box.

And to Marketing's credit, they were on board for that, that it wasn't just something we were going to put on the box. They could have demanded that, and they didn't.

"Oh, and by the way, there's a nukular catapult."

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 1:27 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

That Levine guy seems to be a cool fella, maybe Bioshock won't be too crappy after all
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 1:45 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

King of Creation wrote:
It's very hard to do a ground-breaking game and do [good multiplayer] at the same time. We only want to do ground-breaking crap. If we can't do it ground breaking, I'm not just going to do something like, "Oh, and by the way, there's a multiplayer mode"…so, guess what, we're not going to put it on the box.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 2:55 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

A FPS without multiplayer, without coop play, without LAN, without probably a fucking manual in the cheap slim DVD box. A FPS/RPG, which is actually a FPS. A FPS with a strange setting, no kill se bad mutants, no kill se bad nazis. A FPS with guys like this on the team. Holy shit. It`s gonna be Daikatana all over again. Bring this bitch on Steam for 20$ if you want to see profit.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 4:11 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

What the fuck are you talking about.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 4:19 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

System Shock 2 had a pretty sweet coop mode.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 4:45 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

DaC-Sniper wrote:
Daikatana


aiee the NPCs' AI was hilarious. Badder than Ian dumb
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 4:50 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I already put down 85-90 bucks for this thing (including overnight shipping). I should cancel my order now that I know there won't be any mplay, wtf no teabagging achievement? LAME.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 5:54 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

The design and art of Bioshock is cool, but it's still just another FPS (with superpowers). Yawn.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 5:59 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Naked_Lunch wrote:
What the fuck are you talking about.


just liek my view of seeing things. :overseer:
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 6:27 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

SS2 had a coop mode but it wasn't what made the game so great. Bioshock might be just as cool, no?
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 7:04 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Mad Max RW wrote:
System Shock 2 had a pretty sweet coop mode.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 7:17 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Play System Shock 2 before offering your opinion on Bioshock's gameplay icon_wink

And remember what RPG stands for... RPG does not mean 'statistics, dice rolls, equations and melf's acid arrow'. Bioshock contains nonlinear choice, heavy character upgrading (though via achieving things and finding them, not just by endlessly killing monsters), an open enviroment within a sealed city zone.. Just like System Shock 2, one of the best games I've ever played.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 7:22 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

T-900 is an OGM
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 8:27 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Mechanurgist wrote:
The design and art of Bioshock is cool, but it's still just another FPS (with superpowers). Yawn.


C'mon! Why go original when you can go with the flow! Wheee! icon_joy


The only fps I've ever liked is the Unreal Tournaments, because they are what they are. FPS.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 8:27 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Double: Ok, there's seriously something wrong. ALL my posts are double nowdays.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 8:31 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I have played System Shock 1 and 2. They're great, and I really liked them, but they're not RPGs.

Reminds me, I have to play those SS2 music remixes I have...
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 8:32 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

T-900 wrote:
Play System Shock 2 before offering your opinion on Bioshock's gameplay icon_wink


You fuckhead, thats like saying play Fallout1/2, before offering your opinion on Fallout 3`s gameplay.

T-900 wrote:
And remember what RPG stands for... RPG does not mean 'statistics, dice rolls, equations and melf's acid arrow'.


You want to teach what RPG stands for? Get out! icon_drunk

T-900 wrote:
Bioshock contains nonlinear choice, heavy character upgrading (though via achieving things and finding them, not just by endlessly killing monsters), an open enviroment within a sealed city zone.. Just like System Shock 2, one of the best games I've ever played.


jeah nonlinear choice liek do i use my super rocketlauncha to kill the big HipHop BigPoppa, i mean BigDaddy, because he likes it when you call him Big Daddy, cause tonight i see so many little sisters, who should having my baby, or do i use my super pimped shotgun with 1337 fx effects to show your cool friendz. tard If System Shock 2 is one of the best games you ever have played, then i feel sorry for you.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 9:03 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

frissy wrote:
The only fps I've ever liked is the Unreal Tournaments, because they are what they are. FPS.



Only the first one was really great. The others... are just okay, but nothing outstanding. The first UT is certainly one of the game I played the most. And there were tons of great mods for it, too.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 9:31 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

The first one had the most "Woah" thing for me, the rest have been the adjustments to perfection. Still I don't rate fps really high on the gaming scene, but as for fps...UT.
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