Rosh on what his Bethsoft sources say: RUMOURS

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Aye, I'm merely asserting that while they'll still make a shitload of money by raping Fallout in the eyesockets, the loss in reputation among the more mature minority of the gaming public -will- have -some- effect to the negative...

EA games sell like hotcakes no matter what (What is a hotcake?), but their reputation still does them no good. Innovative gameplay will, if it can help it, go elsewhere, and struggling independants will think twice before crawling under the EA umbrella.

Treat people like shit and, eventually, it comes back on you. I can only hope Bethesda see the value in making a quality game.

What the fuck does one do with that much money, anyway? :?
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T-900 wrote: What the fuck does one do with that much money, anyway? :?
Really expensive hookers
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LoneGunman wrote:This might already have been said, but there is one essential thing to this:

We do not know anything, AT ALL!

And thats pretty much it. Even though all the previous predictions from the community has been correct, the fact of the matter is that we do not know anything specific about FO3. It is kinda hard to debate a topic when you do not have any cold hard facts on the table, and to be frank i belive its hard to percive this as more than a bunch of frustrated people that is hungry for actual information and in the mean time is experiencing a slight case of mass hysteria. All we really do is toss rumors around, that might be true or false.

This Ross character seems to be one of many sources to all of this, and even though his predictions might be correct he still bases them on rumors which IMO makes them at least partially invalid. I do not want to be tossing snotballs at the guy but i think he should be carefull with statements like that. All he does is throwing fuel on a fire that already is burning to fiersly.

Someday the game is gonna hit the shelves, and by then i sincerely hope that Rosh, and everybody that agrees with him, will look like a giant ass because the game turns out to be great.
Dude, this is a Fallout fansite. What are we supposed to talk about? And there actually is alot that we already know about Fallout 3. We know who is developing it, we know their track record. We know setting. We know that there will probably be pointless dungeons. The rest is educated guessing. And since this is a fallout site, ,discussing Fallout 3, even the rumors, should be top priority. And to me, what Rosh has said has just confirmed my own thoughts.

And it doesn't take a genius to take something from the fact that there still is no information. This is a console game, thats what that means. Why would they release anything now when they can show it all off at E3? To the console audience. We know so much already by the way they have handled information about the game.

If they release info now, PC fans will get on their forums and discuss how it probably sucks and they will be able to back it up with facts. Now it's just "rumors". If they debute it at E3, the console fans will be the first to know that it is just like Oblivion with guns and they will get thew word out first. And that word will be "Oblivion with guns" How Awesome!! And the high school kids that buy the game will not give a shit what the real fans think.
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Mr. Teatime wrote:Well, I am curious about Desslock's post, because as I said, he's the only one who's actually seen the game, outside of Bethsoft employees. It genuinely might not be as bad as some might are predicting.
Proof? As far as I know, he clearly stated that he did NOT see the game in any form and only looked at some concept art.
T-900 wrote:All I see in that is Rosh trying to cause trouble, getting upset and having a semi-fictional rant about his fears to make himself feel better O.o

Bethesda may fuck up... But it will hurt them. They'll go from respected RPG developers (already injured since Oblivion's consolification) to being regarded like Electronic Arts.. Crowd-pleasing, money grabbing filth without regard for depth or quality.

It will ruin their public image, aside from sales... And public image remains important. The majority will buy anything just like they'll watch anything just like they'll eat anything you slough into their trough... But the opinions of those with minds still matter.
What a load of crap. Are you 12? Beth fucked the Daggerfall fans with Morrowind, then the MW fans with Oblivion, and they are about to fuck the Fallout fans with Fallout 3. They will make tons of money and will be proclaimed the savior of the venerable Fallout franchise and the RPG developer of the century.
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Beth fucked the Daggerfall fans with Morrowind, then the MW fans with Oblivion, and they are about to fuck the Fallout fans with Fallout 3. They will make tons of money and will be proclaimed the savior of the venerable Fallout franchise and the RPG developer of the century.
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Dogmeatlives wrote:And to me, what Rosh has said has just confirmed my own thoughts.
Except that he didn't say anything. Only the usual "Fallout fans are gonna get screwed, again" we've heard pretty much since the project was announced; conclusions nearly everyone made when they read the word 'Bethesda' on that fateful press release in 2004. It's just his ego talking, as per usual. In fact, those statements are as vague as the standard Todd Howard interview. Unless he's willing to specifically reveal whatever info he's gotten from his so called contacts he might as well shut his yap.

While Bethesda's history doesn't inspire us with much confidence, this witchhunt is getting ridiculous.
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Fallout 3 is like :asshat: for the entire Fallout fan-community.
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VasikkA wrote:Unless he's willing to specifically reveal whatever info he's gotten from his so called contacts he might as well shut his yap.

While Bethesda's history doesn't inspire us with much confidence, <b>this witchhunt is getting ridiculous.</b>
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VasikkA wrote: Except that he didn't say anything. Only the usual "Fallout fans are gonna get screwed, again" we've heard pretty much since the project was announced; conclusions nearly everyone made when they read the word 'Bethesda' on that fateful press release in 2004.
Delusional much, or just a ESF suckass?
It's just his ego talking, as per usual.
Funny, did you bother to read any of it?
In fact, those statements are as vague as the standard Todd Howard interview.
I do recall including what the developers in question were guessing from what they were seeing, thanks for proving your reading comprehension. :D
Unless he's willing to specifically reveal whatever info he's gotten from his so called contacts he might as well shut his yap.
Read or do me the same courtesy.
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Can we all at least agree that the game will more than likely suck?

By the way, is Fallout3.org still in the works?
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Dogmeatlives wrote:Can we all at least agree that the game will more than likely suck?
At this point, you already know. The next question is: Will Bethesda spit or swallow?
By the way, is Fallout3.org still in the works?
No clue about that, honestly.
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Rosh wrote:Funny, did you bother to read any of it?
Yeah, I read it 3 months ago. To you, CRPGs seem to fall into 2 categories; bad and worse - which is why I take everything you write with a spoonful of salt. I realize that Fallout 3 will never fill the expectations that are set upon it, but to draw conclusions about the story, dialogue and the finer roleplaying aspects of the game requires more than hearsay and 3 month old information.
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VasikkA wrote:
Rosh wrote:Funny, did you bother to read any of it?
Yeah, I read it 3 months ago. To you, CRPGs seem to fall into 2 categories; bad and worse - which is why I take everything you write with a spoonful of salt. I realize that Fallout 3 will never fill the expectations that are set upon it, but to draw conclusions about the story, dialogue and the finer roleplaying aspects of the game requires more than hearsay and 3 month old information.
Sorry if you're not able to denote the finer differences between a brief two sentence description, and a THREE PARAGRAPH description that details a lot more in-depth than what I had previously released. True, it might still be based upon old information, but I was doing something called "expanding the info", in particular when you're too stupid to note that you're linking on DAC, and the thread of note is on RPGCodex and I was summarizing what I knew for someone who specifically asked.

Thanks for reading the thread to have some idea of context before you raped your keyboard to make stupid. I hope you now feel proud of yourself for actively lowering the average IQ of the human species of cockroach.
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Rosh wrote:Sorry if you're not able to denote the finer differences between a brief two sentence description, and a THREE PARAGRAPH description that details a lot more in-depth than what I had previously released.

Thanks for reading the thread to have some idea of context before you raped your keyboard to make stupid. I hope you now feel proud of yourself for actively lowering the average IQ of the human species of cockroach.
Now: WHY OH WHY do they let both retarded and dyslexic people post?
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:rofl: Rosh it must be one of these days, no?
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Damnit Rosh, don't sugar-coat things!
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negullah wrote:
Rosh wrote:Sorry if you're not able to denote the finer differences between a brief two sentence description, and a THREE PARAGRAPH description that details a lot more in-depth than what I had previously released.

Thanks for reading the thread to have some idea of context before you raped your keyboard to make stupid. I hope you now feel proud of yourself for actively lowering the average IQ of the human species of cockroach.
Now: WHY OH WHY do they let both retarded and dyslexic people post?

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VDweller wrote: Beth fucked the Daggerfall fans with Morrowind, then the MW fans with Oblivion, and they are about to fuck the Fallout fans with Fallout 3. They will make tons of money and will be proclaimed the savior of the venerable Fallout franchise and the RPG developer of the century.
You failed to mention that they
  • fucked the Arena fans with buggy Daggerfall,
  • fucked the Daggerfall fans with missing patch support,
  • fucked the Oblivion fans with payable downloads,
  • fucked the StarTrek fans with Legacy.
Now Todd is swallowing his Viagra to prepare for the next great fan fucking festival called Fallout III...

Fan fucking isn't an amoral habit only, it's a very lucrative pleasure, too.
How about some Beth fucking?
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Post by Wolfman Walt »

While I'm still hoping for the best and such, I see no reason yet to disbelieve Rosh. Call it a gut feeling. We'll know eventually if he's right (or wrong, which I doubt for some reason) so really right now it's still a guessing game.
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