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frissy
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 10:19 am Reply with quoteBack to top

As for a profitable product not always being a good product, well that's a point of view. For any company that's a GOOD product. As fof a consumer, well could be the crappiest.

I do understand why Bethesda would follow the way they have things done this far, because they know how. Published, profitable and somewhat "good" games are hellawa lot better than canned ones.

What they do best.

Though, i'm still in some belief that it's possible to create a rpg-game that has a similar gameplay to any platform. Xbox's are computers, and much more than any other console. In a normal rpg you only need the mouse and a few key's to make it really playable. Well console controlles have that. Of course this has nothing to do with Bethesda, but I was just making a point that the platform itself isn't a problems, it's just the people who bought it and what they like (moronic games).
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 12:48 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

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Xbox's are computers

Though not very good ones.

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platform itself isn't a problems


Partly they are though since xbox has much more limited hardware than a good gaming pc.
Also, I'm beginning to suspect that the xbox games construction set which companies has to buy from microsoft to make games somehow steer the feel of a game in a certain direction.
Every bloody xbox gamehas a similar feel and controls.
Though this is only what I suspect, the alternative is much too frightening.


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it's just the people who bought it and what they like (moronic games).


Blimey, arent you quite the puzzle solver (puzzleer?).
A regular nancy drew I dare say.
This is, of course, the real issue.
Consoles are for kids, they require no technical skills, and no thought whatsoever.
So morons buy them.
And they buy moronic games.
Which causes game companies to make moronic games.
ad infinitum.
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frissy
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 1:11 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Shiver me timbers ,but I've rarely seen a RPG needing a top-notch gaming pc. I don't think the console hardware itself would limit these sort of games.

As for the game construction set, well I never thought about that. Good point. Long lasting games are pretty much the enemy for the sales of games. You buy a game and run through it in less than 10h, opposite to having a game you play for years and have no "urgent" need to buy a new one. Hmm...an MS consipiracy! YOU BASTARDS!

They don't want to have good long lasting games, because they would loose money. What better way to herd the developers into that direction by giving them the tools only to turn left and right, not up and down.

We are totally screwed. Vertically and horizontally we are aviated into anal-hell.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 2:45 pm Reply with quoteBack to top




LEAKED SCREENSHIT!!
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 5:11 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

frissy wrote:
Published, profitable and somewhat "good" games are hellawa lot better than canned ones.


Roughly in the same way that constructed, profitable and "somewhat safe" nuclear reactors are a helluva lot better than non-existing reactors, I guess.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 6:56 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

No, but they do produce a hellawa lot more of electricity...
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 7:28 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

or they can be meltdown proof
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 5:22 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Hey guys I overheard from someone in class that the japs will bomb pearl harbor to get us to fight in WW2 or something.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 12:05 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

POOPERSCOOPER wrote:
Hey guys I overheard from someone in class that the japs will bomb pearl harbor to get us to fight in WW2 or something.

Shame you're over half a decade too late icon_hahano
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 2:11 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Bloodlust wrote:

LEAKED SCREENSHIT!!

Fake.

Font is too small.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 5:01 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Frater Perdurabo wrote:
POOPERSCOOPER wrote:
Hey guys I overheard from someone in class that the japs will bomb pearl harbor to get us to fight in WW2 or something.

Shame you're over half a decade too late icon_hahano

add to the list another reason why 01 was such a dope year?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 5:57 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

This is where the plot thickens
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 4:58 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

if bethsoft screws up , there is going to be violence.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 8:14 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

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The only reason they haven't confirmed it for XBox is so they can give the appearance of Fallout 3 being made for the PC but its an XBox game. It will be made for 15year olds.


Warent most of you around 15 when fallout 1 and 2 was released?


Was Fallout released in 2009?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 9:29 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

So you`re 13 Dreadnought ?

Damn kiddy, go blow your prist and leave teh internets alone.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 11:22 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Goretheglowingone wrote:
if bethsoft screws up , there is going to be violence.

What, bleeding eardrums from all your goddamn whining?
Goretheglowingone
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 1:17 am Reply with quoteBack to top

i will write a stern letter to there development department, that should teach those cads!
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 3:06 am Reply with quoteBack to top

yeah, you show them, tiger rofl
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 3:50 am Reply with quoteBack to top

PsychoSniper wrote:
So you`re 13 Dreadnought ?

Damn kiddy, go blow your prist and leave teh internets alone.


LOL I'm probably older than most other people here. icon_mrhappy
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 8:16 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

You make 13yrolds look bad.
Hell, i've seen better at Gamespot.
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