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PostPosted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 5:38 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I've constructed this hypothesis with a sprinkle of optimism, here it is-

Oblivion is an FPS because TES is Bethesda's baby. Really, they can do whatever the hell they want with this IP, because it's wholly theirs.

FOBOS was crap because FO belonged( icon_neutral ) to Interplay. They were desperate for money, so then drew straws on which of their better franchises would get the proverbial, commercial rape. FO lost. Probably not exactly how it played out, but Interplay had the power in that situation.

Now Bethesda worked to get the Fallout license, knowing ahead of time the precedent that the name has in RPG lore. Bethesda, as a developer, can be seen as a sort of RPG maker, excluding Oblivion. With this in mind, I believe they are sufficiently aware of what FO3 SHOULD be. The matter is, will they make the game this way?

I believe they made Oblivion what it is because something needed to fight the tide of Japanese shit RPGs on consoles(I don't care if you like them, I think they're totally fake, emo shit). I hope it opened the eyes of those whose only exposure to RPGs were the Final Fantasy Fuck games. I got one of those games and was appalled that they are called RPGs; they're only bland, overdrawn adventure games with high production values. I really think I'd rather watch paint dry or the world turn. But I don't need to tell you guys this.

One thing Fallout is known for is showing that a damn good RPG can be financially successfully. Emil seems like someone with a good head, given what I've seen here and his Looking Glass work. Following Oblivion, Bethesda is probably quite financially secure and in a position to take a risk. Seeing this, I believe FO3 will take on that challenge of being great AND commercially viable. I believe, and very much want, it to be a game that will act as a catalyst for (good)change.

BTW, in case you think that FO3 MIGHT be 2D sprites-

http://www.bethsoft.com/links/job_013106_3dworldartst.html
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 10:54 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I am skipping on that one. Gogogo
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 1:59 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

:asshat infirmaryblues:

he needs an avatar anyway. Che
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 2:02 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

infirmaryblues wrote:
Bethesda, as a developer, can be seen as a sort of RPG maker,

Bethesda is to RPGs what Fanta Grape is to wine.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 2:04 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

A british cook can't improvise himself a french cook when he wants to.

Bethesda will probably do Fallout 3 in the same vein of games as TES ones.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 3:03 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Hey I didn't say a *good* RPG developer, but I did include that Emil is on the project and offers some hope. Just trying to point out what potential is there.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 5:25 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I can't wait to make a Fallout 3 clan on XBLive.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 5:38 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Yeah yeah yeah, if that happens I'll run my face into a wall. I don't want an Oblivion Fallout as much as you guys. Isn't it possible that the game will be good though, at all?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 5:44 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

infirmaryblues wrote:
Yeah yeah yeah, if that happens I'll run my face into a wall. I don't want an Oblivion Fallout as much as you guys. Isn't it possible that the game will be good though, at all?
of course there's the possibility and we improve those possibilities by keeping our expectations low, you grok?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 5:48 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Ahh.....sheer wit. Surprising to find gamers for once with a brain. Kids these days....
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 6:01 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I just get lucky on occasion. icon_pelvic_thrust
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 8:08 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

infirmaryblues wrote:
Isn't it possible that the game will be good though, at all?


No.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 8:09 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Cimmerian Nights wrote:

Bethesda is to RPGs what Fanta Grape is to wine.
yea, and how many 'real' RPGs you have in this case?
Killzig wrote:
I can't wait to make a Fallout 3 clan on XBLive.
rofl
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 8:30 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

PiP wrote:
Cimmerian Nights wrote:

Bethesda is to RPGs what Fanta Grape is to wine.
yea, and how many 'real' RPGs you have in this case?


We already settled for 4. Where have you been when all this 'What makes cRPG' horseshit hit the turbofan?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 10:32 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

He was probably playing Oblivion at the time.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 1:41 am Reply with quoteBack to top

1. my question was rhetorical, silly
2. I've never played Oblimbion, as opposed to you dumb
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 4:08 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

You have to know your enemy if you want to put up a fight.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 4:20 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

how Kung Fu Tse Che
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 7:38 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

St. Toxic wrote:
You have to know your enemy if you want to put up a fight.
of course, so I left criticising Oblivion to you and others who played it. Just don't go 'you play that stupid oblivion boy' on me icon_chuckel it's all really not too serious rolleyes
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 8:29 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

St. Toxic wrote:
You have to know your enemy if you want to put up a fight.


That will be quoted in the next Total War game.
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