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What time do you usually go to bed?

9 pm or before
0
No votes
10:00 pm
1
6%
11:00
4
24%
12:00 ""
2
12%
1:00 am
2
12%
2:00
0
No votes
3:00
2
12%
4am+
1
6%
Whenever
5
29%
 
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the guardian wrote:then let me welcome you to my club scotch....

insanity? i rather be insane then those pesky sane ppl... insanity is so much better then sanity: an insane person isnt afraid of sane people :D plus

also mate, dont bullshit willya? you cant stay awake for 11 days straight, its biologicly impossible, and i dont mean insanity of anything, i mean the body, not to mantion the brain, in some resting time, otherwise, you'll simply collepse... i believe the no sleep limit is somwhere around the 1 week- 8 days zone

myself, the longest duration was 4 days straight, and the sleep afterwards? it was the best sleep ive ever had, i slept for 28hours straight, and GOD did i need to eat afterwards, i didnt even chew, just stuffed that bread in my mouth and swallowed....
Not quite true. The body doesn't exactly need sleep. Ask around. It's true. The brain will get it's rest, any way it can get it. Like in the form of hallucinations. It's freakin' weird.

There's a dude in France that has not slept in over 30 years.
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and where, pretell, did you consume this misinformation?
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the guardian wrote:and where, pretell, did you consume this misinformation?
My uncle is a neurosurgeon. Was involved in some deep study involving sleep, deprivation of, isolation tanks, perception of time, and other weird shit.
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and he told you that a person can go on without sleeping forever, so long as he doesnt mind hallucinations?

i think he was playing a trick on you, but its not my expertise, so i cant realy tell
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the guardian wrote:and he told you that a person can go on without sleeping forever, so long as he doesnt mind hallucinations?

i think he was playing a trick on you, but its not my expertise, so i cant realy tell
No, that wasn't quite it. And there's no trick involved. I think you can access the Johns Hopkins site to get a basic rundown of the research conclusions. Decide for yourself.
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well, alright then... whats the site?
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I go to sleep when I want because I have nothing to do in the morning or all day.
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the brain needs rest, similair to how your computer needs to be shut down sometime sto be given a rest. Let's that say, you've left your computer was left on for a week or two. You notice that some programs will run slow, others wont open at all nad generally it's to slow.

You may experience hallucinations due to lack of sleep, because you're brain is working over-time still processing information. These may become permanent and you go insane mabye after a week or two of not sleeping.

I don't think a french guy has stayed awake for 30 years, but then again what do I know?

You show me, I'll believe it.

After edit:Ok, I looked around because I'm intrested in this and here's some stuff I found.
The official verified sleeplessness record is 11 days, set by high school senior Randy Gardner in 1964. He was monitered by sleep specialists throughout, and apparently suffered little or no negative consequences.
When totally denied of sleep rats die after 3 weeks. First their fur drops out, then they lose weight, then they lose their ablity to regulate their body temperature, and then they die.
that was off a forum.

A guy said he stayed awake for 4 weeks and just stared up at the ceiling, but I doubt that as he porbably feel asleep then woke up without realising it. I do that some times. The guy said all he had was one bottle of pills (no coffee) and no mental/physical stimulation.

Heres what a doctor said.
J. Christian Gillin, a professor of psychiatry at the University of California, San Diego, conducts research on sleep, chronobiology and mood disorders. He supplies the following answer.
The easy experimental answer to this question is 264 hours (about 11 days). In 1965, Randy Gardner, a 17-year-old high school student, set this apparent world-record for a science fair. Several other normal research subjects have remained awake for eight to 10 days in carefully monitored experiments. None of these individuals experienced serious medical, neurological, physiological or psychiatric problems. On the other hand, all of them showed progressive and significant deficits in concentration, motivation, perception and other higher mental processes as the duration of sleep deprivation increased. Nevertheless, all experimental subjects recovered to relative normality within one or two nights of recovery sleep. Other anecdotal reports describe soldiers staying awake for four days in battle, or unmedicated patients with mania going without sleep for three to four days.

The more difficult answer to this question revolves around the definition of "awake." As mentioned above, prolonged sleep deprivation in normal subjects induces altered states of consciousness (often described as "microsleep"), numerous brief episodes of overwhelming sleep, and loss of cognitive and motor functions. We all know about the dangerous, drowsy driver, and we have heard about sleep-deprived British pilots who crashed their planes (having fallen asleep) while flying home from the war zone during World War II. Randy Gardner was "awake" but basically cognitively dysfunctional at the end of his ordeal.

In the case of rats, however, continuous sleep deprivation for about two weeks or more inevitably caused death in experiments conducted in Allan Rechtschaffen’s sleep laboratory at the University of Chicago. Two animals lived on a rotating disc over a pool of water, separated by a fixed wall. Brainwaves were recorded continuously into a computer program that almost instantaneously recognized the onset of sleep. When the experimental rat fell asleep, the disc was rotated to keep it awake by bumping it against the wall and threatening to push the animal into the water. Control rats could sleep when the experimental rat was awake but were moved equally whenever the experimental rat started to sleep. The cause of death was not proven but was associated with whole body hypermetabolism.

In certain rare human medical disorders, the question of how long people can remain awake raises other surprising answers, and more questions. Morvan’s fibrillary chorea or Morvan’s syndrome is characterized by muscle twitching, pain, excessive sweating, weight loss, periodic hallucinations, and severe loss of sleep (agrypnia). Michel Jouvet and his colleagues in Lyon, France, studied a 27-year-old man with this disorder and found he had virtually no sleep over a period of several months. During that time he did not feel sleepy or tired and did not show any disorders of mood, memory, or anxiety. Nevertheless, nearly every night between 9:00 and 11:00 p.m., he experienced a 20 to 60-minute period of auditory, visual, olfactory, and somesthetic (sense of touch) hallucinations, as well as pain and vasoconstriction in his fingers and toes.
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june 26th
heard there's a crazy french man who hasnt slept for 30 years, decided he knows the secrets of the universe and the meaning of life, bought a plane ticket to france

march 11th
im writing this down from france. i keep asking people around me if they know that one guy who hasnt slept for 30 years, they act funny, usualy staring at me and walking away, this isnt realy working.

march 15th
posted a few ads saying "do you know that one guy in france who hasnt slept for 30 years? contact me (a pudding for the man who will give me the information!)
so far, no calls, im getting desperate.... where is that guy?

april 19th
went to the police, inquired them about the man, they laughed alot, i wonder why....

april 25th
i figured, if i'll kill every person exept the fellow who hasnt slept for 30 years, eventualy i'll find him after everyone els but him is dead, bought the ak-47 and a load of bullets, wish me luck

april 27th
writing this down from the jail in france, they didnt like my idea... my lawyers is pleading for insanity, and not the temporal kind.... oh well
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It mentioned the crayz french man in the passage I posted
Michel Jouvet and his colleagues in Lyon, France, studied a 27-year-old man with this disorder and found he had virtually no sleep over a period of several months. During that time he did not feel sleepy or tired and did not show any disorders of mood, memory, or anxiety. Nevertheless, nearly every night between 9:00 and 11:00 p.m., he experienced a 20 to 60-minute period of auditory, visual, olfactory, and somesthetic (sense of touch) hallucinations, as well as pain and vasoconstriction in his fingers and toes.
so he stayed awale for a few months and was'nt even 30 yet.

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does anyone here in the mystery machine want to blow me for a scooby snack?

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guess its possible then
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Pyro,

Thanks for that long post. Nicely informative without being too medical.

Guardian,

Take a look in the 1976 Guiness Book of World Records, to see about that guy who went 30 years without sleep.

I'll get ahold of my uncle, to get the Johns Hopkins research info. Gotta be patient, though. He's hard to contact, sometimes.
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