OXM Fallout New Vegas scans and information

Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 9:48 pm

Oh oh.. I got this.

I found the best mod was the uninstall button. Worked wonders.

GECK was the overall objective of FO2, how does it relate here?

Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 9:49 pm

I don't know who the principal creative think-tanks were for the original two, those responsible for the bulk of the arc of the plots and dialogue writing, but I do hope at least some of them are attached to this project. I've never laughed harder at a game than when interacting with a certain vault dweller who had tragedy upon tragedy befall those around him on each of his subsequent birthdays in life.

Although it's primitive compared to some of today's character facial animation, I thoroughly enjoyed seeing the various expressions on npc's faces (those that did have the close-ups like the wise woman at the beginning of FO 2) whenever you said something smart-assed to them. It would be nice to see a nod to this in New Vegas even if they needed to tweak the animation system to allow for a bit more range of expressions. I hope Obsidian can cement themselves as a powerful studio with this release, those guys and gals deserve a bright future after (some of them anyways) their work on 1 and 2.

I think the hurdle is the 2d format was their bread and butter and the art team behind 1 and 2 really knew how to design stylistic pre-rendered backgrounds that suited the narrative and world of the game. I'm optimistic Obsidian can make the transition to 3D for the Fallout series well, I just hope we don't see a bunch of pre-fab texture work borrowed from FO 3.

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 12:19 am

Zing

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 1:14 am

That's the cutesy name Bethesda gave the Fallout 3 modding kit they released.

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 1:16 am

Unfortunately, looking at the screenies, I think that's exactly what we're gonna see.

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 6:53 am

Zing

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 11:44 am

It's set 3 years after FO3, so no Harold.

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 11:54 am

Had to take the scans down. Oh well.

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 7:54 pm

This hurdle is only in some people's minds. I didn't find many problems with Fallout 3 and, overall, it is a great game, with or without mods, and very fitting of the franchise.

I really don't know why there's so much hatred from forums like these; It reminds me of a group of old men sitting around in a retirement home talking about how the much better the "good ol' days" were. An earlier post even paints people who liked FO3 as idiotic 'l33t' kids and those who prefer the older games as composed and urbane, when the reality is that loud, rabid posters come from sides.

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 8:19 pm

This hurdle is only in some people's minds. I didn't find many problems with Fallout 3 and, overall, it is a great game, with or without mods, and very fitting of the franchise.

I really don't know why there's so much hatred from forums like these; It reminds me of a group of old men sitting around in a retirement home talking about how the much better the "good ol' days" were. An earlier post even paints people who liked FO3 as idiotic 'l33t' kids and those who prefer the older games as composed and urbane, when the reality is that loud, rabid posters come from sides.

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 8:35 pm

The problem is these dudes are coming here with no sense of how badass the first two games were FOR THEIR TIME. I was not satisfied at all by FO3's gameplay, story, etc.. the shit was weak as hell. Yo and why are these punks dissing us for criticizing the game's weak points? It's only through criticizing that we will have a better Fallout experience in the future. We get nowhere by hangin' off their nuts.

And we are not a bunch of oldschool complainers who want our 2-d turn-based shit back! Many of us are avid gamers and we do dig alot of current shit. The problem is that when you compare FO3 to current games it doesn't even hold up.

Character animation- sucks
Voice acting- laughable
combat- headache enducing/boring as hell (poikemon combat is more engaging)
storyline- find your dad/save the water (boring)
morality system- naive as hell

We only criticize because we want improvement for our SIXTY FUCKING BUCKS!!

If you don't like our old man ways get the fuck out our retirement community.

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 10:28 pm

I'm fine with new people coming here, but where the hell do they get the clout to tell us on our own forum that we're wrong and stupid for thinking the way we are? Seriously, that'd be like a foreigner moving next door and telling us our customs are wrong and we're retards because they don't match theirs back home.

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 10:34 pm

I don't mind it...keeps your wit sharp.

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 11:49 pm

This hurdle is only in some people's minds. I didn't find many problems with Fallout 3 and, overall, it is a great game, with or without mods, and very fitting of the franchise.

I really don't know why there's so much hatred from forums like these; It reminds me of a group of old men sitting around in a retirement home talking about how the much better the "good ol' days" were. An earlier post even paints people who liked FO3 as idiotic 'l33t' kids and those who prefer the older games as composed and urbane, when the reality is that loud, rabid posters come from sides.

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 11:54 pm

We never generalize ourselves to the old Fallout fanbase, we're talking about the people at DAC.

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 11:57 pm

Relax, I am one of the "old fogies" who played the games when they were "'badass fot their time." However, I understand that games will change with technology, culture, tastes, economics. There seem to be many people in this and other forums who had many unrealistic expectations. I know that you said that you didn't want the same old 2D game back but there are many who did and still do!

I do think it's fair and reasonable to want to criticize a game's weak points. However, I think you have to keep a realistic mindset of the current culture and, most importantly, the current economics. I may be lucky (or unlucky, depending) in that I've found my tastes in games to have been evolving along with the industry this past 24 years. One thing, for me personally, is that I find myself with less time than I did when I first played FO1 & 2 due to work, wife, family, and the fact that there's many more games available than there were back then. So, these newer games have been hitting the sweet spot for me and although I look back at some of my old favorites with nostalgia, I have found myself bored when playing some of the old 'classics' now.

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 11:58 pm

I was talking specifically to the person I quoted who claimed that the 'fallout fanbase got completely fucked over and ignored.' I can't say I share his feelings.

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 12:01 am

First off, as far as I could tell, this is a public forum not a forum for those who agree with your opinions on the series. Second, while I can't talk for the rest of the newcomers, I was civil when posting. Third, being in your own forum doesn't automatically make what you say correct.

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 12:59 am

If I had written an article that horrible and you posted it for the world to see, I'd ask you to take it down before I embarrassed myself further, too.

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 1:08 am

On its merits, we don't like the game. What is so difficult to "get" about that?