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Mr. Teatime
Righteous Subjugator
Joined: 19 May 2003
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Wed Mar 08, 2006 1:14 am |
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[ Person -> Interview ] - More info on Person: Avellone, Chris
... and it's at RPG Codex.
It's very well written, as is usual for MCA, and I recommend you all go
and read it (though Vault Dweller could take the entire thing off the
front page... CONTENT SYSTEM, MOTHERFUCKER? DO YOU USE IT?). There are
plenty of mentions of Fallout in there, I'll
quote one of the many bits about it:
6. Isometric vs anything else. How important the camera angle is?
Does it add anything to gameplay? Some people believe that a true
Fallout sequel should be isometric, some say that it's not very
important? What's your opinion as an ex-Fallout developer?
Camera angle is critical to gameplay. Isometric is more tactical, less
immersive, but better for any game where you have to manage more than
one companion.
Is it important to Fallout? Beats me. When we were doing Fallout 3,
we were doing isometric just because that's the game we wanted to make.
Josh can probably say more, if you wanted to ask him.
I don't think what makes Fallout great is tied to its camera angle.
I don't think it's tied to its camera angle
either, though I feel it would lose something 'fallouty' if it wasn't
isometric. I loved the way the ceilings of buildings faded off as I
moved my character in there. Also, the combat used the camera angle -
there's a reason why Jagged Alliance 2, arguably the best TB combat
game around, uses the isometric Fallout view.
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ApTyp
250 Posts til Somewhere
Joined: 29 May 2002
Posts: 2694
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Wed Mar 08, 2006 4:16 am |
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You know why I can't hear people yelling in the next room? Cause I'm a dumbfuck. |
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Jesus Christ
Mamma's Gang member
Joined: 08 Mar 2006
Posts: 1312
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Wed Mar 08, 2006 6:34 am |
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I don't know who on my green earth believes that New Reno does not fit into the fallout universe. But they are about as bright as the dickheads who decided it would be a good idea to whip me half to death and then nail me to a cross in the blazing hot sun. |
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Blargh
Überkommando
Joined: 09 Nov 2003
Posts: 6180
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Wed Mar 08, 2006 10:03 am |
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A loaded response from a loaded account.  |
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VasikkA
No more Tuna
Joined: 15 Jun 2002
Posts: 8723
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Wed Mar 08, 2006 1:06 pm |
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| Jesus Christ wrote: | | I don't know who on my green earth believes that New Reno does not fit into the fallout universe. But they are about as bright as the dickheads who decided it would be a good idea to whip me half to death and then nail me to a cross in the blazing hot sun. |
New Reno was very different from other locations both in Fallout and Fallout 2. That alone doesn't make it crap. In my opinion, the issue is not whether a dark, gritty place of sin and gambling would fit into the setting, but rather how it was implemented. New Reno had a special, deep atmosphere and was rich in detail in addition to well designed quests. BUT it was way overdone with profanity, drugs n' hos, cliché-ridden mafia families, bust-a-cap-in-yo-gangsta-ass crap, easter eggs and what not. It seems like the designers put more or less every idea they got into New Reno. Everyone was either a criminal or a gambling/drug junkie. The retrofuturistic, survival theme of the Fallout setting was not present.
About the interview, good stuff. |
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Mismatch
Hero of the Glowing Lands
Joined: 20 Jan 2004
Posts: 2106
Location: Over yonder hill
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Wed Mar 08, 2006 2:43 pm |
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But the sounds in new reno were quite great I must say.
Gunfire in a distance and such. |
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S4ur0n27
Mamma's Gang member
Joined: 01 Jun 2002
Posts: 15013
Location: Outremont
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Wed Mar 08, 2006 2:55 pm |
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New Reno was still enjoyable. That's what's important. |
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VasikkA
No more Tuna
Joined: 15 Jun 2002
Posts: 8723
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Wed Mar 08, 2006 3:14 pm |
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| Mismatch wrote: | But the sounds in new reno were quite great I must say.
Gunfire in a distance and such. |
I think the whole Fallout soundtrack was great and captured the setting well. It sort of set you in the right mood, wherever your character was. Here's the link that was posted a while ago(I don't remember who) with all the music files in mp3 format.
| S4ur0n666 wrote: | | New Reno was still enjoyable. That's what's important. |
Yeah, but it's a double-edged sword. On one side, it was tacky, but design-wise it was very skillfully done. Hell, even I enjoyed becoming the Boxing Champ. And the random comments afterwards.  |
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Jesus Christ
Mamma's Gang member
Joined: 08 Mar 2006
Posts: 1312
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Wed Mar 08, 2006 5:04 pm |
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So the statement that "questions asked reflect what many folks there think of those games" only applies to RPG Codex and not DAC. At least when it comes to the NR statement.
that is good for DAC.
As for the folks at RPG Codex, Damn you all to hell sinners. |
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baby arm
Strider of the Wastes
Joined: 25 Nov 2005
Posts: 865
Location: baby arm fantasy island
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Wed Mar 08, 2006 6:04 pm |
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New Reno was tacky and too much for the overall setting. However, I didn't think that the first time I played FO2. I just thought it was crazy fun. Most of the criticisms leveled at FO2 don't really register with me because I enjoyed the thing so damn much. Is good. |
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Blargh
Überkommando
Joined: 09 Nov 2003
Posts: 6180
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Wed Mar 08, 2006 6:22 pm |
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It has, admittedly, been some time since I last played Fallout 2, and so I don't quite remember New Reno. Was that the city that tore from a seemingly conspicuously bad Bruce Lee film plot rejection, amongst other similarly hilarious additions that I cannot recall at the time of writing ?
No ?
Fuck. |
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S4ur0n27
Mamma's Gang member
Joined: 01 Jun 2002
Posts: 15013
Location: Outremont
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Wed Mar 08, 2006 6:23 pm |
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I kind of felt the same way. The first time I played FO2, I greatly enjoyed it. All you assholes forced me to look back at it and admit a lot of it was too much, but fuck you, the game is still mad fun. |
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Jesus Christ
Mamma's Gang member
Joined: 08 Mar 2006
Posts: 1312
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Wed Mar 08, 2006 6:57 pm |
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| S4ur0n27 wrote: | | All you assholes forced me to look back at it and admit a lot of it was too much, but fuck you, the game is still mad fun. |
It's the "too much" part that made it such great fun. |
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VasikkA
No more Tuna
Joined: 15 Jun 2002
Posts: 8723
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Wed Mar 08, 2006 7:33 pm |
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| Jesus Christ wrote: | | S4ur0n27 wrote: | | All you assholes forced me to look back at it and admit a lot of it was too much, but fuck you, the game is still mad fun. |
It's the "too much" part that made it such great fun. |
So drugs, whores and gambling in computer games gets you off? There's no earthly pleasures in Heaven or Alabama or wherever you reside? Luckily, there's plenty of games for you where you don't even have pay bottlecaps in order to get some imaginary booty.
The excessive adult content in New Reno didn't add anything to my gaming experience, except maybe some mild amusement quickly forgotten by the marvel of who the fuck stole my car. I enjoyed Fallout 2, although not as much as the original, but I got my kicks elsewhere than playing a virtual porn actor. |
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S4ur0n27
Mamma's Gang member
Joined: 01 Jun 2002
Posts: 15013
Location: Outremont
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Wed Mar 08, 2006 8:15 pm |
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You're jumping to conclusions pretty quickly, there. |
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St. Toxic
Haha you're still not there yet
Joined: 31 Dec 2004
Posts: 3358
Location: One-man religion.
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Wed Mar 08, 2006 9:26 pm |
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| Jesus Christ wrote: | | I don't know who on my green earth believes that New Reno does not fit into the fallout universe. But they are about as bright as the dickheads [SNIP: the one and only dickhead] who decided it would be a good idea to whip me half to death and then nail me to a cross in the blazing hot sun. |
Rebelling against your old man? Go for it, kiddo.
EDIT: Oh and what's up with the Codex, man? |
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Jesus Christ
Mamma's Gang member
Joined: 08 Mar 2006
Posts: 1312
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Wed Mar 08, 2006 9:45 pm |
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| VasikkA wrote: | | The excessive adult content in New Reno didn't add anything to my gaming experience, except maybe some mild amusement quickly forgotten by the marvel of who the fuck stole my car. |
Don't fret. The Fucker who stole your car will be punished... Well, virtually punished.  |
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Stainless
Living Legend
Joined: 18 Apr 2002
Posts: 3034
Location: Melbourne, Futureland
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Thu Mar 09, 2006 1:26 am |
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| Blargh wrote: | It has, admittedly, been some time since I last played Fallout 2, and so I don't quite remember New Reno. Was that the city that tore from a seemingly conspicuously bad Bruce Lee film plot rejection, amongst other similarly hilarious additions that I cannot recall at the time of writing ?
No ?
Fuck. |
San Fran. |
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Jesus Christ
Mamma's Gang member
Joined: 08 Mar 2006
Posts: 1312
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Thu Mar 09, 2006 2:10 am |
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| St. Toxic wrote: | Rebelling against your old man? Go for it, kiddo.
EDIT: Oh and what's up with the Codex, man? |
Thanks for the support, ohh great Saint of Toxic. 
Vault dweller told us that most of the RPG Codex dwellers are anti New Reno. |
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baby arm
Strider of the Wastes
Joined: 25 Nov 2005
Posts: 865
Location: baby arm fantasy island
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Thu Mar 09, 2006 2:17 am |
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Don't believe everything VD tells you. He's a lying whore with an ugly toupee. |
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