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<strong>[Community -> Editorial]</strong> - More info on <a href="http://wikipocalypse.duckandcover.cx/in ... le=Fallout: A Post Nuclear Role Playing Game">Game: Fallout: A Post Nuclear Role Playing Game</a>

If you were asked to come up with a top 50 most influential games of
all times what would you include? Fallout? Probably... However, <a href="http://www.1up.com/">1up</a> doesn't feel that Fallout deserves to be included in <a href="http://www.1up.com/do/feature?cId=3116290">their list</a>.
Games like Final Fantasy VII, Parappa The Rapper and Ultima Online
steal Fallout's place in the 1997 time stamp. While I agree with them
on a lot of the games they chose, especially the early ones, I ask:


What the hell is Parappa The Rapper? The screenshot they posted clears things up:

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Furthermore <a href="http://www.1up.com/">1up</a>
writes:

<blockquote><em>It was on the list when we started, but was ultimately pushed
aside in favor of other games which we felt were more important. (Other
games to suffer this dire fate include The Legend of Zelda in favor of
its more recent successor, Ocarina of Time, and Fallout, which we love
more than Ultima Online but humbly accept hasn't been as influential.)</em>

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That's right, Fallout was hardly influential.


NOT!


"U rappin' GOOD" <a href="http://www.1up.com/">1up</a>
Spotted @ <a href="http://evilavatar.com/">Evil Avatar</a>

[Smiley]

I don't see Dark Castle or Oids in there...

[Mr. Teatime]

Paparappapa the Rapper looks kind of fun, actually. Though I'm a big fan of jet set radio future which has the same kind of FUNKIFY! theme.

[Jinxed]

Does that theme include kermit the frog wearing a pimp hat?

[Mismatch]

That's right, Fallout was hardly influential.

well, you have to agree that FO hardly spawned legions of classless RPG's.
Or even PA RPG's.
But indeed, one would think that it has been more influential than papa raeggae

[Mr. Teatime]

I'm not that 'enraged' about the list. I would take issue of a game like Halo put in over Fallout, but it's not like they put FOBOS in there. The list has a strong console bias, though.

[Nicolai]

I played the demo of Parappa The Rapper for the psx, it's one of those bizarre dancing games.

[LlamaGod]

it's not a dancing game, it's just cool rhythem dealio. And it came out before those faghat dancing games.

Um Jammer Lammy was cool too, especially the airplane level.

[Europa13]

And then the devil he farted and went right over the cliff...


aside from that... Jumpin Jesus on a Pogo Stick, that's insane... Given props to some stupid rap game with fluffly pimped out animals. Good thing I gave up a long time ago, else I might been disturbed by this. heheh

[Sovy Kurosei]

Why is the Macintosh considered a game?

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In 1984, of course, they called the Macintosh preposterous. It was expensive, it was monochrome, it was all sealed up in one beige box, it was made by a pair of long-haired hippies from California, who had gone and named the thing after an obscure variety of fruit. And it certainly wasn't any good for playing games with. Back then, you played games with a joystick, not some funny little rolling-ball widget called a "mouse."

...Yes... very expensive... about 40.000 kr (5350€ roughly)

And then there was IBM computers... about 10.000€
expensive my ass, you ignorant fucktards!

And while we're at it, XEROX invented the mouse!

[POOPERSCOOPER]

THat list is not good, I mean Halo is influental? Fuck i would of said Goldeneye 007 was way more influental.

[Fez]

I played Parappa The Rapper. It might have been a rhythm (same as the dance games except played with the pad) game before all the more recent abominations, but I think they'd have appeared despite it. It wasn't the first either.

I don't agree with the list and the research seems suspect.

[crossmyheart]

I don't think you can argue with the fact that Fallout wasn't influential. How many 2D, turn based combat, heavy storyline, non-linear rpgs do you see? Hardly any. Great game? Most definitely. Imitated? Not really. If there were more games like Fallout (games that people actually know about and sold decently) then I would have more games to play.

[Mr. Teatime]

Games that sell well aren't necessarily influencial, and games that sell little can still be influencial. Fallout is hailed as a landmark RPG by a lot of people and often listed as an influence by RPGs that are aiming for a similar sort of game. But yes, given most of the games being released these days, it's clear that Fallout hasn't had as much influence as it should have done.

[Jinxed]

Direct influence as in other devs making cookie cutter games based on it? No. But influential enough to be a landmark as teatime said. If you really examine the list on the level of influence like some of you guys are then at least 50% of the games on their list shouldn't be there. They weren't the first of their kind and didn't influence anything directly at all.

Feel free to correct me, but I just don't know how was prince of persia influential... Or Mortal Kombat. Both were good games that represented an elaboration of something already made. Both games reached a stellar level in their own right though, and that's why they got put in the list.

The level of influence you are talking about is Alone in the Dark. That game created a whole new genre and countless games got released through the years that were similiar. The people who make survival horror nowadays don't look that game up but there is no denying that Alone in the Dark is a landmark in gaming history.

[Fez]

Prince of Persia inspired a lot of platformer clones, like Tomb Raider. Though Rick Dangerous had a similar theme.

Influence could be measured in how many games have imitated them, either as near clones or by taking elements from them.