SuperCharacter----YEAHAHAHH!!!

[Insane-Lark]

<The Lady raises an eyebrow at scOpE>
Seems to me that you ought to do a bit more listening & a bit less attacking board members. If you have some interesting information to impart then do so, if not, then you ought to lurk, surf Fallout sites etc & learn something. Hopefully at the very least you'll come up with some tact.
Oh yes & while we are at it, I have passed the Vault Citizenship test without cheating. Just picked small framed & gifted.

Insane-Lark

[Temaperacl]

what i am trying to tell you guys... you can edit your chars without an editor, so in a way it is a legit way of making a superchar.
if you use this editor FALCHE you are just using someone esles tool to make your char...
using editors is a bit cheap, it isn't cheating as much just to use something in the game to you're advantage, like file changing... but still if you wan't a real super super char you should probably use that editor (where can i get it to see what it is like??)...

I disagree on it being cheap using the tools to edit the files.. Either way, you are acting outside of the scope of the game to change your characters.. Then again, I only edit my characters in other to test other things, so.. *Shrug*

The editor is available here.

also on the vault test you need LK and AG and ST to make the test...
i tried it with a char with all stats but LK on 10 and they rejected me!!! proven.. how about you get your proof!!!! damn n00bie!!!

Like I said, you need Perception, Intelligence and Luck. Here is my proof:
(From decompiled vcgreg.int)

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function Node023;
begin
	if ((GetStat(Player,4)>8 AND GetStat(Player,1)>8) AND GetStat(Player,6)>8) then begin
		SayForAnswer(117,179);
	end else begin
		SayForAnswer(117,180);
	end;
	if ((GetStat(Player,4)>8 AND GetStat(Player,1)>8) AND GetStat(Player,6)>8) then begin
		Answer(4,117,181,@Node026,50);
	end else begin
		Answer(4,117,182,@Node024,50);
	end;
end;


function Node024;
begin
	if GetStat&#40;Player,4&#41;<9 then begin
		SayForAnswer&#40;117,183&#41;;
	end else begin
		if GetStat&#40;Player,1&#41;<9 then begin
			SayForAnswer&#40;117,184&#41;;
		end else begin
			if GetStat&#40;Player,6&#41;<9 then begin
				SayForAnswer&#40;117,185&#41;;
			end;
		end;
	end;
	Answer&#40;4,117,186,@Node025,50&#41;;
end;

function Node026;
begin
	SayForAnswer&#40;117,192&#41;;
	Answer&#40;4,117,193,@Node027,50&#41;;
end;

which translates to:
(Sorry for the formatting, but it is the best I could do with the simple controls here.

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function Node023;
begin
	if (INTELLIGENCE>8 AND PERCEPTION>8) AND LUCK>8) then 
		[i]"Finished already? Are you certain you don't want to double-check your answers?"[/i]
	else
		[i]"All right, time's up. Let's see your form."[/i]
	end;
	if (INTELLIGENCE>8 AND PERCEPTION>8) AND LUCK>8) then 
		Answer: "Already did. Here." (Goto: Node026)
	else
		Answer: "Wait! Just a minute more... oh, forget it. Here." (Goto: Node024)
	end;
end;


function Node024;
begin
	if INTELLIGENCE<9 then 
		[i]"Hmmm... no, no... that's wrong... that's not right, either... a divide by zero error here... hmmm... needed to carry the two... oh my, your vocabulary is sadly lacking as well, I see."[/i]
	else 
		if PERCEPTION<9 then 
			[i]"Let's see... I see you missed spotting the sub-derivative equation...and you missed the essential meaning of paragraph seven, both parts...  and the pyramid in this diagram can be crossed eight times, not three."[/i]
		else
			if LUCK<9 then begin
				[i]"Well, the answers you DID manage to put down seem fine... it's the timeliness in which you took the test... and the glaring grammatical errors and..."[/i]
			end;
		end;
	end;
	Answer: "So...?" (Goto: Node025)
end;


function Node026;
begin
	[i]"Well, let's take a look... first, let's see if... oh, very good, I see you got that one, how about... why yes, you carried the two, very clever, very clever... but why did you... oh, you applied the derivative to #5... brilliant!"[/i]
	Answer: "Of COURSE it was brilliant." (Goto: Node027)
end;

function Node027;
begin
	AdvanceTime(3 HOURS);
	[i]"Why... you've passed! Congratulations."[/i]
	Answer: "Great. So I'm a Citizen?" (Goto: Node028)
end;

If you pass the test, then the only thing that will prevent you in the physical test from getting citizenship is if you have an extra toe.
So, Is my proof satisfactory?

[Sc0pE]

o.k o.k, i thought wrong
... thanks for correcting me though, now i can use that to help me in the future...

thanks anyway, i will watch and learn from the best....

[Kashluk]

Well you do that. Because we don't like too aggressive bull-shitters, ok?

[Tank]

So what language is that code in? Assembly or...?

[Chrille]

Voted for the quests!

Those are about the most important things in an RPG :!:

[Temaperacl]

Looks mostly like Pascal to me.

[Tank]

crap. I don't know that language...

[Temaperacl]

Don't worry, you don't need to- that's just what it looks like to me.. The basic syntax is pretty easy to get a hold on anyways, so.. If you are used to C(++), just think
begin' for {
end for }
:= for =
and = for ==
and that pretty much covers the basics (I think)..

[Tank]

OK, well, that seems pretty simple... thanks!

[This is Gonna Hurt]

I've said it before, I'll say it again...In a game like Diablo2, Counterstrike, cheating is annoying because it detracts from the play of others. In Fallout 1/2 there is no multiplay, so I could care less what you do, the only person missing out is you.

And no, I've never tweaked a character, or gone beyond having fun with a couple of the NPC cloning bugs in Torment before reloading my saved game and moving on. I enjoy beating most games the old-fashioned way, and it has to get bloody near impossible (ie, certain levels in No One Lives Forever, the final boss of Doom 2, etc.) before I use cheats to see an ending.

As to the voting..I go with the combat system. I loved the turn-based hex-moves in the fallout games. If only the enemy had been given something resembling an AI the game could have become really and truly challenging in this respect. As it was with a bit of strategy and a lucky critical (or the sniper perk) you could come out of almost any conflict with barely a scratch. Just my thoughts.

[Pred_667]

I look at it this way. I played thru both FO1 and FO2 and beat them the legitimate way, so the next time around I hack my character using Falche1/2 so I can hit some of the other parts of the game I missed. In most games I only do money cheats (I hate poor characters). In Fallout(s) I just do it so I can have fun. That is the ultimate goal of the game is to have fun. Right?.

[Warlord]

I agree. I also played them first the lgit way, but then I wanted to do some real damage and überfun.
So I downloaded FALCHE and had a wonderful time blowing up mutants with a Power Fist.

I think that when you first play a game through with no cheats, you are then perfectly allowed to use cheats. I mean, some games have that special function. When you finish the game, you get to some sort of cheat mode to just have more fun.

And FO2 has those too. Remember the FO2 book you get from New Reno and the computer at Vault 8?

[Red]

It's much more of a challange to find everything without cheating. And yes, it is possible, and anyaway there's also some stuff only available to stupid chars, so with a superchar you still don't get "Everything".
Instead of cheating to find everything, try to toy with your stats, and finish the game with a different set of rules (say, only melee weapons, or only unarmed weapons, or only fists). There are so many ways to reaply this game without cheating and still have a great time.

[Rat Keeng]

Instead of cheating to find everything, try to toy with your stats, and finish the game with a different set of rules (say, only melee weapons, or only unarmed weapons, or only fists).

Or playing without Steal, Gambling or Barter. It's so much more fun to play through without a trunk filled with über-equipment and 10 sets of Power Armor.

[Kashluk]

Instead of cheating to find everything, try to toy with your stats, and finish the game with a different set of rules (say, only melee weapons, or only unarmed weapons, or only fists).

Or playing without Steal, Gambling or Barter. It's so much more fun to play through without a trunk filled with über-equipment and 10 sets of Power Armor.

Nah, it ain't :twisted:

[Rat Keeng]

Well, that's your opinion

[BigJack]

My opinion is...
Dont cheat or you'll lose some times of great, great fun.

[Blarg]

I've finished FO and FO2 fairly. A bit o' cheating can be fun. I installed the "Klint the Generous" mod in FO2. It's amusing, in a ridiculously excessive force sort of way, to go through the Temple of Trials with APA Mark 2 and a Bozar...

[Sc0pE]

the fact is that if you need to cheat to beat FO or FO2 or FOT on easy then you suck!
once you have clocked the game it is alright to have some fun and cheat a little or alot... once you have beaten every single avenue of a game there is nothing to miss out on by cheating, only things to gain...

either way you look at it superchars are alot of fun...