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Poll :: what would you do if the end of the world were tomorrow

nothing
19%
 19%  [ 5 ]
kill myself
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
pray
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
riot
3%
 3%  [ 1 ]
rape,rob and kill
26%
 26%  [ 7 ]
other:please state
38%
 38%  [ 10 ]
all above
11%
 11%  [ 3 ]
Total Votes : 26


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HappySuitcase Man
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PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2002 6:17 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Ganymedes wrote:


As for my personal opinion on socialism... Well, frankly, I despise it! I am strictly against any ideology/policy that is based on a system where everything is controlled by the state. Without personal freedom, my life wouldn't be worth living... Also, socialism is based on a beleif of everybody as 'equal'. Everybody is NOT equal! Everybody is different, they have different needs, different wishes and different beleifs. They should be treated that way too!


Hm... Looks like American Propaganda is crossing over into Scandinavia...

Just kidding! Anyhow, communism and the like aren't ideologies that restrict civil liberties as a matter of policy, it just happens that they are usually tossed out the window in countries that subscribe to that certain ideal. Propaganda here in America has rarely neglected to parade this on display. Here in the U.S., communism is synonymous with fascism. The equation "Fascism = Communism = Socialism" is Political Rule #1 for the political media. Carrying it further, if Socialism = Corporate Regulations and Trade Unions, then Regulations and Unions must equal fascism. Before the USSR fell, the mainstream media never failed to show them as "imperialists dedicated to spreading their wretched ideals." Of course they were imperialists, but the media often "forgot" to show starving kids in U.S. colonies Argentina and killing fields in Guatemala. Just try coming to America, going on Hardball, and using the phrase "ruling class" in an un-sarcastic way. I can guarantee that you'll be labeled as some "lunatic Marxist ranting and raving." Seriously, compared to U.S. propaganda, Nazis propaganda looks like child's - play. Ever hear of political correctness? The folks who invented that should be very proud; thought control like that would be hard to copy even in a mega - efficient fascism.

The Soviet Union was in no way affiliated, at least action-wise, with socialism. The propaganda used "socialism" as a banner to unite the workers. After they had been organized into a "labor army," Lenin set at once to destroy the seeds of it, so those laborers would remain nice, unquestioning little workers.

Ever hear of Democratic Socialism? What's so impossible about having strict regulation on big business and still having personal freedom. Just as communism is faulty in believing that "the individual will temper his/her greed for the good of the whole," capitalism assumes that one's greed will be restricted by a sense of morality. And about your point on people not being equal, socialism is about giving people equal opportunities. Propaganda constantly proclaim as being a result of the free market system.

Wrong! In capitalism, the people in control of the wealth and power remain in control of it until something major occurs. Corporations have protectionism, globalization, and government agencies on their side. Not to mention power - lawyers, who can keep harmful products on the market for years. What about that kid who has a rich daddy? Wouldn't he have a much higher chance in succeeding in life than that lower-middle class kid with a used - car salesman parent?

Er... Insert Conclusion Here

Sources Stuff I ripped off from Noam Chomsky.
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Ganymedes
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PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2002 7:08 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I'm to tired to respond to all of this tonight, but I just feel this great urge to comment one of your points...

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Ever hear of Democratic Socialism? What's so impossible about having strict regulation on big business and still having personal freedom. Just as communism is faulty in believing that "the individual will temper his/her greed for the good of the whole," capitalism assumes that one's greed will be restricted by a sense of morality. And about your point on people not being equal, socialism is about giving people equal opportunities. Propaganda constantly proclaim as being a result of the free market system.


I live in a country that has constantly been ruled by socialdemocrats until lately... So yes, I know what it means... Also I know it doesn't work...

Norway, as one of the richest countries in the world with large oil income, stands today with

STINKING public health care, and no legal private health care...
STINKING school systems, although it's close to impossible to start up a private school...

Just to mention a couple of important issues...

And, yes socialism gives everybody the same opportunity... Excactly the same... "The equality school" is a term that is debated in Norway today. Me, I disagree in this prinsciple, that I so carefully has been educated by...

Everybody is different... They have different needs... They shouldn't get treated equally...

*GASP* :morning: I am really tired now, and all of the letters I type start floating together... My eyes are closing, and I beleive my little political rant maybe lacks conclusion and arguments... It's probably repetive, and is not really a response to your post... I thi--- :sleeping: :sleeping: :sleeping: :sleeping: :sleeping:
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Knight
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PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2002 8:43 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Vote: Other


Go on a beating and sruviving spree and steal all the games I want and other etronic stuff and enjoy it until the world ends! HA! icon_razz
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Yossarian
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PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2002 11:14 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

- Try to verify if the world really ends tomorrow

- Move all meetings and assignments to next Monday

- Try some of the harder drugs...the time I am addicted, I won't be there no mo'...

- Try to get a nice vantage point for the spectacle

- Think of a good last phrase

- Utter last phrase
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Sirgalahadwizard
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PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2002 11:36 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I'd make preperations to start up my own little raider force - kinda like freeport in FoT.

I'd be your nice fellow raider, do work for me and I wont shoot you, do work for me and ill feed ya - a little. icon_razz

Take anything from me and your a dead stink on shit, then ill kill your family and any other commoner who speaks about it.
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PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2002 12:06 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I remember they asked a monk that once, while he was doing some agricultural work. He replied he would keep doing what he currently did. Really, what can you do that you haven't done in your life and gain benefit from? I can't think of something. Now, if we were talking next year, there would be several options...
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Megatron
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PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2002 4:48 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I'd just burn down a hospital then go on a killing spree until someone else kills me. That or I'd just uh...

...

Kill people?
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Genghis Khan
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PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2002 5:47 am Reply with quoteBack to top

My self i would probably turn up for work/college whatever happens to be happening that day continue as normal pretend that its a normal day look out the window and wonder why people are screaming and shouting outside.
Or to be more precise go completely stark raving mad and do something really radical like Wearing a vest instead of a T-shirt :oops: .
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War Bringer
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PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2002 6:01 am Reply with quoteBack to top

... lust... i guess...

I'd find Jaymee Ong, take her to some secluded paradise and tell her that I'm the last man she can make love to before the world ends....

shit! you guys gotta see this girl! google or yahoo or whatever, but check her out and you guys will know what i mean.



i'm sorry you guys... if the picture's too big, i'll get rid of it, just say the word...

damn, it's good to be young icon_mrhappy
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